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Wikipedia Exposed As Corrupt Tool of The Establishment OCTOBER 26, 2018 BY 21WIRE 

https://21stcenturywire.com/2018/10/26/wikipedia-exposed-as-corrupt-tool-of-the-establishment/ 

Big Business have turned Wikipedia into platform for propaganda into a platform for private propaganda for the ruling elite ..

RT America’s Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, Chris Hedges, talks with investigative journalist Helen Buyniski who exposes an editing racket resembling a type of “pay to play” policy, along with a collapse in credibility of this highly-politicized organization. Despite the obvious signs, a wave of disinformation is still being allowed by Wikipedia’s aloof co-founder Jimmy Wales (pictured above) who has knowingly allowed his online portal to transition from an egalitarian knowledge base into yet another corrupt tool of the ruling elite.

“... its become more and more obvious that Wikipedia is a website that should have no credibility at all … it would be one thing if Wikipedia was considered to be just a bias source like a trash rag … the bathroom wall of the Internet I like to call such trash rage… but it’s not ,, Wikipedia is considered the holy oracle of truth ….. however Wikipedia is really anything by the holy oracle of truth …” ….  investigative journalist Helen Buyniski 

“..Wikipedia has become an online source of instant information about politics, people, countries, conflicts and an array of historical events that confine our culture …

But this online Wikipedia search is completely different from the old scholarly well researched encyclopedia or academic journals  that once graced library shelves … Wikipedia’s contributors and editors are largely anonymous and are not required to show or produce any expertise in the subjects they write about and edit .. they are often unpaid …there are those who bear grudges .. or … champion particular ideologies or conspiracy theories .. along wit bib business …that closely monitors and edits all that appears about its products and business dealings that has turned Wikipedia into a platform for private propaganda … nowhere is this more evident in the way Wikipedia treats left wing anti capitalist critics such as the British MP George Galloway …  along with journalists such as Glen Greenwald and Seymour Hersh … Joining me is investigative journalist Helen Buyniski  to discuss Wikipedia and how it has become the tool to ]propagate the reining ideologies and biases for the ruling elite ….” …RT America’s Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, Chris Hedges,

 

Investigative journalist Helen Buyniski exposes Jimmy Wales' egalitarian Wikipedia as yet another tool of the ruling elite writes for RT And is on Twitter @Bellocirapture23 www.helenofdestroy.com/

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On the latest episode of On Contact, investigative journalist Helen Buyniski exposes Jimmy Wales' egalitarian Wikipedia

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Two Clintons 41 years

$3 Billion

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/clinton-money/??noredirect=on

A Washington Post investigation reveals how Bill and Hillary Clinton have methodically cultivated donors over 40 years, from Little Rock to Washington and then across the globe. Their fundraising methods have created a new blueprint for politicians and their donors.

The Clintons have raised $3 billion in support of their political and philanthropic efforts over four decades. Nearly all the funds went to support six federal campaigns and their family foundation.

By Matea Gold, Tom Hamburger and Anu Narayanswamy - Published on Nov. 19, 2015

LITTLE ROCK — Over four decades of public life, Bill and Hillary Clinton have built an unrivaled global network of donors while pioneering fundraising techniques that have transformed modern politics and paved the way for them to potentially become the first husband and wife to win the White House.
The grand total raised for all of their political campaigns and their family’s charitable foundation reaches at least $3 billion, according to a Washington Post investigation.
Their fundraising haul, which began with $178,000 that Bill Clinton raised for his long-shot 1974 congressional bid, is on track to expand substantially with Hillary Clinton’s 2016 White House run, which has already drawn $110 million in support.

The Post identified donations from roughly 336,000 individuals, corporations, unions and foreign governments in support of their political or philanthropic endeavors — a list that includes top patrons such as Steven Spielberg and George Soros, as well as lesser-known backers who have given smaller amounts dozens of times. Not included in the count are an untold number of small donors whose names are not identified in campaign finance reports but together have given millions to the Clintons over the years.


MI6 Are The Lords of the Global Drug Trade By James Casbolt – Former MI6 Agent c. 2006

It had been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the CIA has been bringing in most of the drugs into America for the last fifty years (see ex LAPD officer Michael Rupert's 'From the wilderness' website for proof).

The CIA operates under orders from British intelligence and was created by British intelligence in 1947.

The CIA today is still loyal to the international bankers based in the city of London and the global elite aristocratic families like the Rothchilds and the Windsor's.

In the 1950’s, a genetic bloodline study was started by the NSA based at Harwell Laboratories to find suitable candidates, especially children, to be used in Project Mannequin. 

https://esamawuta.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/mi6-are-the-lords-of-the-global-drug-trade.pdf

It may be a revelation to many people that the global drug trade is controlled and run by the intelligence agencies. In this global drug trade British intelligence reigns supreme. As intelligence insiders know MI5 and MI6 control many of the other intelligence agencies in the world (CIA, MOSSAD etc) in a vast web of intrigue and corruption that has its global power base in the city of London, the square mile. My name is James Casbolt and I worked for MI6 in 'black ops' cocaine trafficking with the IRA and MOSSAD in London and Brighton between 1995 and 1999. My father Peter Casbolt was also MI6 and worked with the CIA and mafia in Rome, trafficking cocaine into Britain. My experience was that the distinctions of all these groups became blurred until in the end we were all one international group working together for the same goals.

We were puppets who had our strings pulled by global puppet masters based in the city of London. Most levels of the intelligence agencies are not loyal to the people of the country they are based in and see themselves as 'super national'.

It had been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the CIA has been bringing in most of the drugs into America for the last fifty years (see ex LAPD officer Michael Rupert's 'From the wilderness' website for proof).

The CIA operates under orders from British intelligence and was created by British intelligence in 1947.

The CIA today is still loyal to the international bankers based in the city of London and the global elite aristocratic families like the Rothchilds and the Windsor's.

Since it was first started, MI6 has always brought drugs into Britain. They do not bring 'some' of the drugs into Britain but I would estimate MI6 bring in around ninety percent of the drugs in. They do this by pulling the s was a government 'signature' and this LSD was called 'Europa'. This global drugs trade controlled by British intelligence is worth at least £500 billion a year.

This is more than the global oil trade and the economy in Britain and America is totally dependent on this drug money.

 Mafia crime boss John Gotti exposed the situation when asked in court if he was involved in drug trafficking.

He replied "No we can't compete with the government".

I believe this was only a half truth because the mafia and the CIA are the same group at the upper levels.

 In Britain, the MI6 drug money is laundered through the Bank of England, Barclays Bank and other household name companies.

The drug money is passed from account to account until its origins are lost in a huge web of transactions. T

he drug money comes out 'cleaner' but not totally clean.

Diamonds are then bought with this money from the corrupt diamond business families like the Oppenheimers.

These diamonds are then sold and the drug money is clean.

MI6 and the CIA are also responsible for the crack cocaine epidemic in Britain and America.

In 1978, MI6 and the CIA were in South America researching the effects of the natives smoking 'basuco' cocaine paste.

This has the same effect as crack cocaine.

They saw that the strength and addiction potential was far greater than ordinary cocaine and created crack cocaine from the basuco formula.

MI6 and the CIA then flooded Britain and America with crack. Two years later, in 1980, Britain and America were starting to see the first signs of the crack cocaine epidemic on the streets.

On August 23, 1987, in a rural community south of Little Rock in America, two teenage boys named Kevin Ives and Don Henry were murdered and dismembered after witnessing a CIA cocaine drop that was part of a CIA drug trafficking operation based at a small airport in Mena, Arkansas.

Bill Clinton was the governor of Arkansas at the time. Bill Clinton was involved with the CIA at this time and $100 million worth of cocaine was coming through the Mena, Arkansas airport each month.

For proof see the books 'Compromise' and 'Dope Inc'. On my father's international MI6 drug runs, whatever fell off the back of the lorry so to speak he would keep and we would sell it in Britain. As long as my father was meeting the speedboats from Morocco in the Costa del Sol and then moving the lorry loads of cannabis through their MI6, IRA lorry business into Britain every month, British intelligence were happy.

As long as my father was moving shipments of cocaine out of Rome every month, MI5 and MI6 were happy.

If my father kept a bit to sell himself no one cared because there was enough drugs and money to go round in this £500 billion a year global drugs trade.

The ones who were really paying were the people addicted.

Who were paying with suffering. But karma always catches up and both myself and my father became addicted to heroin in later years and my father died addicted, and poor in prison under very strange circumstances.

Today, I am clean and drug-free and wish to help stop the untold suffering this global drugs trade causes. The intelligence agencies have always used addictive drugs as a weapon against the masses to bring in their long term plan for a one world government, a one world police force designed to be NATO and a micro chipped population known as the New World Order.

As the population is in a drug or alcohol-induced trance watching 'Coronation Street', the new world order is being crept in behind them. To properly expose this global intelligence run drugs trade we need to expose the key players in this area: 1- Tibor Rosenbaum, a MOSSAD agent and head of the Geneva based Banque du Credit international. This bank was the forerunner to the notorious Bank of Credit and Commerce international (BCCI) which is a major intelligence drug money laundering bank. 'Life' magazine exposed Rosenbaum's bank as a money launderer for the Meyer Lansky American organised crime family and Tibor Rosenbaum funded and supported 'Permindex' the MI6 assassination unit which was at the heart of the John F. Kennedy assassination. 2- Robert Vesco, sponsored by the Swiss branch of the Rothchilds and part of the American connection to the Medellin drug cartel in Columbia. 3- Sir Francis de Guingand, former head of British intelligence, now living in south Africa (and every head of MI5 and MI6 has been involved in the drug world before and after him). 4- Henry Keswick, chairman of Jardine Matheson which is one of the biggest drug trafficking operations in the world. His brother John Keswick is chairman of the bank of England. 5- Sir Martin Wakefield Jacomb, Bank of England director from 1987 to 1995, Barclays Bank Deputy Chairman in 1985, Telegraph newspapers director in 1986 ( This is the reason why this can of worms doesn't get out in the mainstream media.

The people who are perpetrating these crimes control most of the mainstream media. In America former director of the CIA William Casey was, before his death in 1987, head of the council of the media network ABC. Many insiders refer to ABC as 'The CIA network.) 6- George Bush, Snr, former President and former head of the CIA and America's leading drug baron who has fronted more wars on drugs than any other president. Which in reality is just a method to eliminate competition.

A whole book could be written on George Bush's involvement in the global drug trade but it is well-covered in the book 'Dark Alliance' by investigative journalist Gary Webb. Gary Webb was found dead with two gunshot wounds to the back of his head with a revolver. The case was declared a 'suicide'.

You figure that out. Gary Webb as well as myself and other investigators, found that much of this 'black ops' drug money is being used to fund projects classified above top secret.

These projects include the building and maintaining of deep level underground bases in Dulce in New Mexico, Pine gap in Australia, Snowy mountains in Australia, The Nyala range in Africa, west of Kindu in Africa, next to the Libyan border in Egypt, Mount Blanc in Switzerland, Narvik in Scandinavia, Gottland island in Sweden and many other places around the world (more about these underground bases in my next issue).

The information on this global drugs trade run by the intelligence agencies desperately needs to get out on a large scale. Any information, comments or feedback to help me with my work would be greatly welcomed.

https://esamawuta.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/mi6-are-the-lords-of-the-global-drug-trade.pdf

"MI5/MI6" were the original designations when both organisations came under the War Office, now the MOD - "MI" stands for military intelligence. Their official names (acquired in the 30s) are the Security Service (MI5) and SIS, the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6).  

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_mannequin03.htm  

https://exopolitics.blogs.com/files/james-casbolt-mi6-buried.alive.pdf 



https://esamawuta.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/mi6-are-the-lords-of-the-global-drug-trade.pdf

“A true slave is the man who  cannot speak his mind.” Ancient Greek proverb

“Immortality will be given to those  who  unravel the ignorance of their youth.”Ancient proverb

James Casbolt, M16, the CIA and Aliens

M16 Are the Lords of the Global Drug Trade

It had been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the CIA has been bringing in most of the drugs into America for the last fifty years (see ex LAPD officer Michael Rupert’s ‘From the wilderness’ website for proof). The CIA operates under orders from British intelligence and was created by British intelligence in 1947. The CIA today is still loyal to the international bankers based in the city of London and the global elite. Since it was first started, MI6 has always brought drugs into Britain.

MI6 bring in heroin from the middle east, cocaine from south America and cannabis from morocco as well as other places. British intelligence also designed and created the drug LSD in the 1950’s through places like the Tavistock Institute in London. By the 1960’s MI5, MI6 and the CIA were using LSD as a weapon against the angry protestors of the sixties and turned them into ‘flower children’ who were too tripped out to organise a revolution.

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Underground Bases, Missing Children, Extra-Terrestrials

The global drugs trade run by many factions of the global intelligence community co-operating together (MI6, CIA, MOSSAD etc) is worth at least £500 billion a year. This is more than the global oil trade. MI6 control many of the other intelligence agencies in the world. MI6 created the CIA in 1947 and still control them today. This ‘black ops’ drug money or in classic Orwellian terms, MI6/CIA ’non-appropriated funds’ is being used to fund government and military projects classified ‘Above top secret’.

These operations include a huge worldwide UFO cover up and the building and maintaining of deep underground military bases (D.U.M.B.S).

There are many of these bases worldwide but here is small list.

– Dulce in New Mexico
– Brecon Beacons in Wales
– Los Alamos in Mexico
– Pine Gap in Australia
– The Snowy mountains in Australia
– The Nyala range in Africa
– West of Kindu in Africa
– Next to the Libyan border in Egypt
– Mount Blanc in Switzerland
– Narvik in Scandinavia
– Gottland island in Sweden and many other places.
These projects are being run by a secret, unelected international governing body connected to the U.N.

more


https://playtoh.wordpress.com/2006/10/24/m16-the-cia-and-the-drug-trade/

 

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James Casbolt MI6 - Buried Alive 

By James Casbolt/Michael Prince 

Copyright James Casbolt/Michael Prince 

All rights reserved http://www.jamescasbolt.com/index.html

https://exopolitics.blogs.com/files/james-casbolt-mi6-buried.alive.pdf


HAPTER ONE - Mannequin My name is James Michael Casbolt. The following is my life and testimony. I was born in London in 1976. I was chosen for an intelligence agency mind control and genetic enhancement program before my birth and was born into the program known as Project Mannequin. This project is one of the most secret and classified projects in this country, and this is the first ever book written about it. I was born into the project because of rare genetic attributes that I possess, which the handlers of the project are looking for – also, because of my family’s involvement in the intelligence community and the Illuminati. My family descends from the French royal family of the French revolution on my father's side. My Grandfather was involved in naval intelligence in the Second World War. His name was James Casbolt. He was also a high-ranking member of the Sindlesham Grand Masonic lodge in Berkshire. Berkshire is a major centre of activity in the U.K for what has come to be known as “The New World Order.” He was a Zionist Jew and also heavily involved with Rupert Murdoch and ran his own printing company after the war. My uncle was an MI 5 operative in logistics - his name is Brain Casbolt - and my father was a MI 6 operative; his name was Peter Casbolt. My father was also known under many different aliases in the intelligence community. My stepfather, Neil Pettet, was a high level executive of an aluminium metal company called Hi-Mets (now called Service Metals). This company was based in Newbury, practically right on top of the AL/499 facility. Neil had a military defence contract with the M.O.D and worked underground at R.A.F. Welford connects underground to the AL/499. He also worked at Harwell genetics labs in the area and Boscombe Down military unit in Wiltshire. Both these places are heavily connected to Project Mannequin, as we shall see later in this book. I also have a relative called Charles Casbolt. Charles had so many kills during dogfights in the RAF during the time of the Second World War, there is a war hero website dedicated to him on the internet. Google “Charles Casbolt” to see this. My father was involved in international drug trafficking operations bringing millions of pounds worth of illegal drugs into Britain from the 1960’s onward. He worked with associates of MI 6 operative Howard Marks and operated in Rome, Spain, the Middle East, and other places. MI 6 and the CIA have become infamous for this, and the drug money is known in secret service circles as “non-appropriated funds.” This money funds covert projects that need to be kept off certain official government records. Many 2 of these issues, as well as my involvement in Project Mannequin, will be made public for the first time in this book. I have had constant death threats, and even intelligence people die in very suspicious circumstances hours before arranged meetings with me; however, the mission of getting this highly classified information to the public and exposing the people perpetuating the horrors of this medical project is bigger than me and must be made public. The disregard for human life and suffering compares with the Nazi scientists’ genetic and mind control experimentation in World War II. Project Mannequin is a mind control and genetic manipulation program run by the National Security Agency (NSA).

Although the NSA is officially the United States government, they run many covert “black” projects in many countries around the world. The NSA is fast becoming the world’s most powerful secret service and is currently taking over much of the global intelligence apparatus. Project Mannequin was started in 1972 and is still being run from a 6-level underground facility beneath the small town of Peasemore in Berkshire, a few miles from where I grew up. This underground base is so secret that the local residents of Peasmore are not even aware it exists.

 

This NSA facility, known in intelligence circles as the AL/499 base, is located 200 feet below the village. There are entrances to the facility at Greenham common (known as ‘Bravo’ entrance, which is now sealed off), Watchfield Military Science College (‘Delta’ entrance), and Harwell laboratories in Oxfordshire. There are entrances to the base in Lambourne and Welford in Berkshire. The underground base at Lambourne is the “Area 51” of the U.K. with many exotic, anti-gravity aircraft stored there. The project involves the kidnapping of targeted civilians and also certain intelligence and military people. Some of the intelligence and military personnel have volunteered for the project, but many have not. Almost all of the civilian “guinea pigs” have not volunteered and have been used against their wills. I was “sold” into the project. Many of the civilians have also been used in the project from young children. The reason is to create programd “sleeper” agents using sophisticated electronic hardware-based hypnosis. These individuals are programd by the NSA to carry out future tasks, set by the NSA, and become hitmen as adults. Sleepers are people who carry out a huge variety of preprogramed tasks with sometimes little awareness of the medical procedures in Project Mannequin because of advanced memory erasure techniques. A large part of the project focuses on creating espionage agents and assassins who have undergone genetic enhancements, which will be discussed in greater detail in this book. Project Mannequin is actually a type of “school” I grew up in. I have been trained since the age of five at the AL/499 and other military bases around the U.K. I carried out my first covert assassination for the intelligence community when I was sixteen years old in Brighton. This may sound unbelievable to many people, but a vast amount of evidence will be presented in this book. Most people do not know what the intelligence community actually is. Forget about James Bond movies; much of the 

secret service apparatus in the U.K and U.S is an occult, paedophile network run by corrupt factions of the “Illuminated” degrees of Freemasonry (33rd degree and above). Everything in Project Mannequin is organized by the Jewish kabala occult system, using such esoteric methods as numerology and archeometry (advanced remote viewing). Even the name James Casbolt means “valiant, decorated warrior of death and destruction” in Kabala numerology. You can check this yourself on the kabala calculator available on the Internet. My security number in Project Mannequin was X4566-2, and I was a commander of a 5-member unit that consisted of four males and one female. Even this was based around the kabala, as the five members each represented one of the five elements- air, water, fire, earth, metal/spirit. Our assassination unit was part of a 15-member “Delta” team, and the team was divided into three units. Each unit comprised of four males and one female. I was known as Commander Michael Prince. During my “visits” to the AL/499 throughout my life, I was taken through the Greenham common Bravo entrance most of the time. Sometimes other entrances were used. At the Alpha entrance in Harwell laboratories, there is a security area in one of the buildings. This security area (A) is guarded by two security officers who are both armed. At this area is an elevator that descends 200 feet to security area B. The elevator has two sections: One for personnel and guinea pigs and one for vehicles. The second security area is larger and has four, and sometimes five, officers that are all fully armed. Area B has two highly secure blast doors that will seal off the tunnel to the AL/499 in the event of an emergency. Security Area B has two vehicles in operation that travel back and forth from Harwell to Peasmore. The security officers escort all guinea pigs to, from, and around the AL/499. The medical subjects are drugged when they enter the facility. My involvement with the intelligence community goes back years, as it was planned for, as a child in Project mannequin that I would be “used” as an espionage agent when I grew up. By the time I was eighteen, I was involved in advanced remote viewing programs at an underground facility in London. By the time I was nineteen, I was involved in covert MI 6 drug trafficking operations working for my father. This was in London between 1995 and 1999. My father, uncle, and grandfather also had mind control issues, and the programming sites in this country where my father was programd will be discussed in this book. Intelligence-run mind control operations are usually a multi-generational thing with each generation more easily programd, as the genetic memory of the horrific medical procedures become more ingrained into the family’s genetic makeup. In the 1950’s, a genetic bloodline study was started by the NSA based at Harwell Laboratories to find suitable candidates, especially children, to be used in Project Mannequin. From this study, the project was started in 1972; however, my family may have been targeted for mind control before the 1950's. 

The CIA was created two years after this in the American National Security act of 1947 to handle the massive number of mind control, cloning, and other covert projects that were born from Paperclip. The NSA is the sister organisation to the CIA and is now a more powerful entity.   

  1947 was also the year of the Roswell crash and when Israel was formed. A year later in 1948, a genetic bloodline study was started in Britain to locate gifted children to be used for espionage by the intelligence community.

 This was called ‘Project Anvil’ but changed its name to ‘Project Oaktree’ in the 1950’s. Oaktree was under the command of the NSA by this time and was being run from Harwell genetics laboratories in Oxfordshire. 

It was connected to all the major hospitals in the U.K. and was connected to the Mannequin program that I was born into. 

Mannequin was started in 1972 at the Peasemore base near where I grew up in Tilehurst, Berkshire. 

Project Oaktree was actually set up to locate the descendants of the ‘Tribe of Dan,’ which is the so-called ‘Lost Tribe of Israel’. 

These middle-eastern people were of white skin, and the descendants are not actually lost but kept secret.

 Some people may have heard of the ‘British Israelites,’ and Gordon Brown is heavily into this school of thought. 

The Tribe of Dan travelled from Dan (‘Kaish’ in Hebrew) just below Mt Hermon and went up into Greece around the time of the Exodus. 

In Greece, they were known as the Spartans. 

From Greece they travelled to France where they were the Merovingian Priest-Kings and other French Royal lines.

 From France they travelled to Scotland, Ireland and America. 

They were known as the ‘Tuatha De Danann’ in Ireland and Celtic clans, such as the ‘Campbells’ in Scotland. 

They were worshippers of the Goddess of energy, such as Asartes and Ishtar and were heavily into animal shamanism, such as bird and snake symbology. 

The eagle is one of their symbols, and the eagle on the American coat of arms and the NSA symbol represents the Tribe of Dan. 

The owl is also another of their symbols, which represents the ‘angel’ Ishtar. 

I have only discovered in the last couple of weeks that the Hebrew name for Dan is Kaish. 

Approximately twenty people in the US and Germany at the time would have been directly involved in the Grey/human treaties. The information was kept on a strictly need-to-know basis within the governments and secret services. Little has changed regarding Grey, government, and concentration camp issues. We now have the Grey, Draco reptilian, and government sell-outs in Britain and America who are torturing test subjects as we speak, installed into underground concentration camps.   

  Many missing people end up in these facilities and are used as slave labour and test subjects. There is a large underground concentration camp under Salisbury plain in Wiltshire. Most of these evil places are built on sacred land, such as Stonehenge, to distort the vortex centres. I went to this facility in 2006 (taken there by a Delta special forces team by plane) and witnessed some of these martial law experiments. One of my former NSA/DOE contacts was named Dean Warwick (who died on stage in suspicious circumstances at the Probe International conference in Blackpool). Dean worked at the Los Alamos and Alamo Gordo underground facilities in the New Mexico desert. Dean also worked at an underground facility in Hawaii. He saw Greys and reptilians walking around at the Los Alamos facility and also witnessed human test subjects in cages there. Employees at these facilities go through a process known as “desensitisation” before they are allowed in the high security areas, where they may come across ETs and disturbing tests going on.  

  In desensitisation, the employees are injected with such drugs as Scopolamine (an accelerated learning drug) and shown video footage of ETs and horrific scenes of torture and death to enable them to withstand the things they will see. It is mostly the short Greys that employees of underground bases will come across, as the Draco reptilians keep themselves away from human interaction most of the time. Sometimes, however, an employee will wander down a wrong corridor and see a reptilian - this happened to Dean Warwick, Barry King, and Lincoln.    

  Dean was subcontracted by the NSA in the late 1980's and worked for them until 1992. He was a senior electrical engineer at the Los Alamos facility. He told me there are now over 4000 underground bases worldwide and many of them have ETs in the high security lower levels. X5 also said the underground concentration camps in America and Britain are known as D4 facilities (deep underground military prisons). The major bases worldwide are mainly under the control of the NSA and are classified D1- Deep underground military bases, D2- Deep underwater military bases, D3- Deep under mountain military bases, and D4- Deep underground military prisons (although Lincoln informs me these classifications have now been changed). The Grey and Draco reptilian ETs working together with the upper levels of different countries’ governments is known by intelligence insiders as MIEC (Military Industrial Extra-terrestrial Complex). Another NSA contact, X3, told me that a global Masonic apparatus above the 33rd degree is controlling upper levels of many governments of the world. The 33rd degree is officially the highest Masonic degree, but in reality, there are many degrees above this. This Masonic degree is the first real level of trust, and most Freemasons never get above the lower Blue degrees.  

  You are either born into a certain bloodline, or you do something that sets you apart from Joe public and are brought into the Elite inner circle. On level 33, a mason often gets access to the highly classified areas of the MIEC. This Masonic degree is known as the first level of “Illumination.” George Bush Sr. is reported to be above the 42nd degree and is deeply entrenched in the MIEC. Insiders also refer to the MIEC as “The Octopus.”   

Before we go into greater detail regarding the treaties, let’s talk more about suppression of real information. Let’s take, for instance, the infamous GLP (God Like Productions) public Internet forum. This site has millions of users, but it is controlled by “moderators” at the Tavistock Institute. There is basically a large room full of computer intel geeks at the facility on Tabernacle Street in London; they control the flow of information here. 

I’ve posted sensitive information there and had my mother’s address in St. Ives put on the thread with indirect threats on her life. I’ve also had some intel guy with a conscience give me a list of my father’s European drug trafficking routes when he was alive. Add to this, there have been unmarked black helicopters pretending to dive-bomb 20 my flat two hours after posting RV techniques there. That was good for a laugh!        

BROKEN PROMISES 

By 1944, the Grey/human treaty was showing signs of stress, as it was discovered that greys were abducting more people than they were putting on the government lists. In May 1954, under the Eisenhower administration, the third extension of the Grey and US government treaty was signed - the Grenada Treaty. The Orion Greys and Draco Reptilians blatantly broke the terms, as we shall see later in the book. The Grenada Treaty was agreed upon under the Holloman air force base in New Mexico by the Greys and the ULTRA unit of the NSA. The name of the facility under Holloman AFB was code named DANDELION, although this may have changed now.

 The ULTRA unit was one of the most elite and super secret of the NSA factions at the time and was ran by Project Paperclip Nazis who were part of the NSA after 1945. All ULTRA members were cloned humans. 

The original documents of this treaty and the original ET materials from it can be found today in the NSA facility called Blue Moon. Blue is code word meaning extra-terrestrial related. Blue moon is an underground facility beneath Kirkland air force base in New Mexico. 

The entrance to the base is in the Manzano Mountains. 

Inside Blue Moon is the technological headquarters of the very secretive DOE, which Lincoln and Dean Warwick work[ed] for. 

Today, the DOE at Blue Moon is building free energy devices, developed from Grey and Draco reptilian technology, for use in space. 

Many advanced space-based weapons have been built, as well. MIEC insider Dr. Bill Deagle was told by the director of the US space command that they control every cubic centimetre of space between here and Mars

. The director also told Bill that they have weapons that would make George Lucas drool if he knew about them. 

Trillions of dollars have been spent on this technology over the decades since the first modern Grey and Human treaties were started. 

CHAPTER SEVEN - CONVERGENCE of the STARCHILDREN 

  In August 2006, I made the following prediction on the Edge AM radio broadcast. I stated we are close to a worldwide stock market collapse followed by an Arab-backed Russian military invasion of the U.S. and U.K. 

The global stock market collapse has now occurred, and it is time to ask yourself this question: 

Why are masses of Russian and Polish immigrants being let into the U.K? 

If a Russian invasion were being planned, would there be less resistance if the population were mixed together? 

We were told years ago that the U.K. and U.S. would become training grounds for Russian Special Forces, such as Spetsnaz (Russian Special Purpose Regiments) working together with private security firms such as Wackenhut. 

I’ve nothing against the Russian KGB/FSB, as I’m friends with ex-KGB agents such as John Symons. 

Most of these guys are just puppets because again we have a group of 33rd degree and above masons working together and controlling the Russian, American, and British governments. 

These people are now playing out a “Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse” scenario. 

This will cause religious uproar amongst Christian, Muslim, etc. fundamentalists. 

This is all planned to do just that, of course. 

The four stages, or horsemen, of the New World Order are as follows (and it all begins with the global stock market collapse) 

1) Worldwide stock market breakdown - First major attack on the world’s population 

2) Arab-backed Russian invasion of U.S and U.K. - World War 3 

3) Large scale bio-warfare attack on world’s population - “Return of the Plague” situation 

4) Topped off by a false flag Alien invasion with Illuminati and ETs working together - Possibly staged over 2012 Olympic games in London while eyes of the world focused on the event 

  On September 8th, I received this email from X3 (33rd degree of Zion/Illuminati member): 

Dear James The Committee of the Majority (MAJIC) have elected out of the Illuminati (top 300, 33rd degree masons). 

Now putting final plans in place for fake Armageddon scenario. 

Watch Iran and Pakistan. 

Plan is for theater of war to break out in the Middle East- IE Armageddon. 

  Meanwhile Lord Jacob Rothschild and his lodge, through the BIS are attacking the U.S financial system. 

The plan as I understand it is a simultaneous financial attack, then a war with Russia through Iran and Israel, then a bird avian virus attack throughout the USA. 

The microchips of course are in the inoculants manufactured in Switzerland by Rockefellers company. 

If the Lightworkers turn up (Author’s note - Plieadians), which is expected, Project Bluebeam will be initiated- Fake ET invasion. 

Yours in service Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

 

James Casbolt is a former MI6 agent who worked in 'Black ops' drug trafficking operations in London between 1995 and 1999. He comes from a line of intelligence people. His grandfather was naval intelligence, his father was MI6 who was also involved in 'Black ops' and his uncle was an MI5 officer in Logistics.

From Cornwall England, James wishes to make amends for his part in these operations and blow the whistle on the crimes against Humanity that the intelligence agencies are involved in. MI6 and the CIA have cornered the global drugs trade (which is worth at least £500 billion a year, this is more than the global oil trade) and are now bringing the majority of illegal street drugs into America and Britain.
They are using this drug money to fund projects classified 'Above top secret' which include the building and maintaining of deep underground military bases (DUMBS). There are now over 4000 of these bases worldwide and the average depth of these bases is four and a quarter miles. Some are shallower and some are deeper. The bases are on average the size of a medium sized city and yes, he says there are aliens in them.
James is connected to ex intelligence people who have worked in these underground bases and on other ET related projects. There are vast numbers of children and adults disappearing around the world and ending up in these underground bases. As a former MI6 Agent that has seen aliens first hand and has inside information that will shock even the most disbelieving person. Every person alive on the planet today needs to be aware of this information for their futures.

Technology exists called Thermoptic Camouflage that can render a secret service man invisible to the naked eye. It is small device that can be worn on the belt and activated at will. A secret service man can also be put through a Thermoptic field and will become invisible to the naked eye for over forty-eight hours. There is no need to carry the Thermoptic hardware around if you are put through the field; however, after the forty-eight hours is up, the agent starts to phase back into sight and becomes violently ill for a short time. 

Many of my peers in global intelligence who know what is going on regarding the ET situation have told me I am being irresponsible by making all of this information public.

 They claim the public cannot handle the truth. I do not believe this and want to stop treating the public like children. 

I wish to inform and educate them so they can make informed choices for themselves as the great Earth changes and upheavals are starting to occur. 

FEDERATION TREATIES 

This situation is so bizarre and gets even more so as we go deeper into highly classified areas. I have been told by my NSA contact, X3, there are at least 118 different extra-terrestrial races, that the NSA knows about, involved in the affairs of this planet. The NSA refers to this ET grouping under such titles as The Link and others. There are the benevolent ETs visiting this planet from star sectors such as the 29 Pleiades, Andromeda, Lyra, Tau Ceti, Sirius A, and Ummo, which have been referred to by contactees and secret service personnel as The Galactic Confederation of Worlds. Here we are going into complicated Star Wars-type Exo-politics.

THE LUCIFERIAN WARS 

The Galactic Confederation has a policy of non-intervention in the history of a planet’s developing population; however, like any council, there will be different viewpoints. Now we get into the real secrets of the “Angels” and the ancient galactic battle known by the Pleiadians as the Luciferian Wars. The simple fact is that the beings known in religious texts as Lucifer, Michael, Azazel, Raphael, Gabriel, and Uriel were/are physical extra-terrestrials.   

  

  CHAPTER FIVE - BORN into the PROJECT 

1981 - 5 years old. Taken from Chalgrove primary school in Finchley, London by two men and driven to Greenham Common military base. Transported to BRAVO location at Greenham Common and taken underground to the AL/499 facility with fifteen other children for testing of PSI abilities. This session included a ritual in which one of the children (a small girl) was thrown into a cage with an attack dog and murdered in front of the rest of us. This entire event filmed. 

Video probably passed around intelligence community as a “snuff” film. The fifteen children left were divided up into three groups of five for future training. Age of children seem to range from approximately 5-10 years old. Session culminated in 1st OSIRIS genetic engineering procedure. Just after this, my mother enrolled me in martial arts training in Finchley with a sadistic instructor. 

Details of the programming session as follows: (Warning: disturbing reading) I was living with my mother in Finchley, North London at the time, and my father had just come out of prison in Spain for drug trafficking and was living in Reading at the time. I remember one early afternoon at this time being driven to the Greenham Common military base in Berkshire by two men in a white car. Many of the details of that time have come out under regression therapy, but I have always remembered pulling up to the front gates of the place. 

  The next chain of events is as follows: The man in the front passenger seat turned around to me in the back and said, “They keep nuclear weapons here.” I later discovered this was actually a front to keep the base secret so children could be trafficked in and out of the facility. Nuclear weapons may have been kept here, as well, but the primary reason of the Greenham Common base was to channel children underground to various facilities around the country. We drove though the base into an underground tunnel. There was a two-lane road in this large tunnel, and we drove down it until we came to a flat underground car park with an army truck parked on the left hand side. 

There were two booths here, with security guards sitting in each one. The tunnel went further on past the two booths. On my right-hand side, I could see a group of approximately fifteen children standing by a door. All the children had blankets wrapped around their shoulders, and there were men in military uniforms and suits standing to the left of the children. They were not saying anything and just appeared to be standing there waiting. 

  I was taken out of the car, handed a blanket (the tunnel was cold) and huddled together with the other children by the man in the passenger seat who was dressed in civilian clothing. The group consisted of mostly boys; some girls were in the group, as well. 33 Most of us appeared to be roughly the same age, but some looked slightly older and taller. We were then ushered through the door on our right by one of the men in suits and walked down a couple of hallways to a room, which was a classroom type setting. The room contained chairs with desks in front, and we were all told to find a desk and sit down. 

The man stood at the front of the room, and we all waited for what seemed like a couple of minutes before a woman came into the room. She was pushing a trolley and wheeled it around next to our desks. She then handed each of us a type of puzzle, which we had to put geometrical shapes together. The woman was middle-aged with dark hair, pretty, and wearing an office-type dark skirt and white shirt. When we all had our puzzles, she  stood at the front of the room and told us we had three minutes to put them together. She said “go,” and started a stopwatch. I cannot remember how well I did, but she instructed us to stop when the time was up and then came around with a clipboard marking our results down.

  After this, things turned very nasty. A group of men rushed in suddenly through the door on the right, which the woman used to enter. They dragged us out of our seats roughly. We were terrified, screaming, and struggling. Then we were carried roughly and some of us dragged out of this door and into the outside hallway. The woman was shouting something in a loud aggressive manner, which seemed to be directed at us. Still screaming and terrified, we were then strapped onto gurneys and wheeled down a couple of corridors into a medical-type setting and injected with drugs by doctors in lab coats. 

We were then wheeled down more corridors into a large, darker room with many large cages that housed large dogs and what appeared to be large wolves. I also remember hearing the sound of large cats (tigers or lions) and other animals deeper into the room, but I could not see that far into the darkness. The men who had dragged us out of the classroom were standing there with the woman, and she ordered them to unstrap us from the gurneys. 

This they did, and we all stood together huddled for protection. By this time, the drugs had kicked in, and we were in a state of chemical-induced calmness and compliance. The woman told us we were going to play a game to “choose one.” I also remember her saying something about the “first chosen one,” which now smacks to me of Masonic terminology. Add to the fact of Female Goddess energy being worshipped in Masonry, and many of the rites being controlled by a female “Mother Goddess” figure, I believe what happened next was a Masonic/Satanic ritual. 

The woman seemed to occupy the Mother Goddess role, as she then proceeded to hang a bunch of coloured ribbons onto the wall on her left side and told us to pick one ribbon each. This we did and then stood back together again. She asked, “Who has dark purple?” and everyone looked down. The room was lit up with a kind of fluorescent or infra-red light, and our ribbons glowed with a psychedelic aura. 

A small girl to the left of our group said, “I have,” and the woman nodded to one of the men who then grabbed the little girl and roughly carried her towards a cage on our left. She was struggling and crying, and as we all whimpered in terror, he opened the door and threw her in with a large snarling dog that had been barking and going crazy since the man picked the little girl up.    

  It appeared to be an Alsatian type dog or wolf but was much bigger. This animal picked the little girl up in its jaws like rag doll and started to shake her. It is difficult for me to remember much after this, and I’m not sure I want to. I even feel guilty about witnessing this event and even writing about it. Another survivor of similar projects told me this is very common and is called “survivor’s guilt.” 

1984 - 8 years old. Taken by father from Brighton, when visiting him on holiday, to the Burnham Beeches OMEGA location in a private section of woodlands on government land. Subjected to snake shamanism rituals here. Again, most, if not all, procedures in Project Mannequin are filmed in the name of science. Father also programmed at the OMEGA location as a child and adult. He was regularly taken here as a child by his father 

Details of programming session are as follows: 

We were staying in an expensive hotel, and my father went out to make a phone call. He returned to the room and told me we were going for a drive. I questioned him about the trip, and he said, “I can’t tell you.” We drove to Burnham Beeches not saying a word most the trip. It was just getting dark as we arrived. We parked and were met by another man who talked to my father; I was led away by this man. We went into the woods, and I saw people gathered there with robes and hoods. Some of them were holding some kind of lit staffs, which illuminated the darkness. They formed a circle around me and started to chant in a strange language, which looking back on it now, sounded Hebrew or Aramaic. Like in 1981, English terms, such as “chosen one,” were also included in the chanting.    

A woman in a robe approached me (this may be the same woman from 1981) holding a small, multi-coloured snake. She pulled the sleeve up on my arm and pushed the top of the snake’s head to agitate it. It hissed, and she directed it head to my arm, which it then bit. The poison seemed to kick in quite quickly, and I went into an altered state and got very ill. After a certain amount time, I recovered, and some of the people who were wearing robes were now naked. The woman brought another snake to me (this one a slightly different colour but still small), and I was bitten again.  

  I got very ill again and this time I almost died. I was injected with a drug to revive me, and I recovered. I was then taken off to the left where a hole had been dug with a coffin next to it. The coffin was opened, and I saw it full of large snakes. I was in a very weak state and was lifted up and put in the coffin. I was then buried alive. It seemed as if I was buried for hours. There was no escape for me in the coffin, so I dissociated and 35 went somewhere else in my mind. The larger snakes in the coffin seemed to be nonpoisonous. 

1986 - 10 years old. My mother and I moved to Reading with my step-father. I was taken by two men while playing in the local woods at the end of Recreation Road, where we lived, and transported to the AL/499. As an adult, the little girl who lived opposite me got in contact with me out of the blue. She told me she had large memory gaps and remembered seeing TR-3/Firefly-type special forces aircraft landing in the local woods when we were children. 

I was later contacted by NSA operative “Sylus” and supplied my Project Mannequin file regarding this training session. Other contacts whom I trust in the intelligence community confirm this file as authentic: TS (R) - CLAVIUS TS Subj: X4566-2 (casj) Assessment for Covert Tasking: (1) Unstable implant (series TETRA) has made X4566-2 unsuitable for liquidation CovOps. (2) Recommend X4566-2 be retained for obs. and released into general pop. for FALLOW-RIGHT double-blind testing. 

COMD-CLAVIUS Oct 4, 1988 Details of programming session as follows: A training area was set up in one of the large rooms in the AL/499, and a small audience came in and took their seats. A very famous politician, who I will not name at this time, was in attendance. I was to participate in a bare-knuckled fight with another of the older boys from the second unit. Commander Clavius was my handler at this time. He was a dark-haired man with a thin to medium build and approximately 5’11” tall. Sometimes he wore suit pants, a white shirt and tie, and other times he wore a dark special forces “all in one” type jumpsuit that I have seen many people wear over the years. He had an American accent and bad breath. 

When the fight began, I hit the other boy with a right cross and knocked him onto the floor, then stomped on his head. At this point, the fight was stopped, and I was greatly praised by Commander Clavius. After this, a kitten was brought in as my reward, and then events turned savage again. The handlers always went from being extremely kind to sadistic in order to confuse you. I was handed a knife and told to stab the kitten to death.  

I refused, and the commander screamed in my face and started slapping me. I still refused, and the beating became harder. I started to dissociate and went into a kind of stupor. Another man, with an American accent, in the audience yelled “Kill it yourself,” to the commander, to which he replied, “Yes sir.” He then killed the kitten himself. I dissociated deeper, and my trance became deeper. 

Because I failed this test, I was deemed unsuitable for physical assassinations and my training started to go down the remote viewing and mastery of subtle energy route. However, the physical martial arts training continued, and by sixteen years old, they decided to try me on my first hit in Brighton (but we’re getting ahead of the timeline). Session culminates in 2nd OSIRIS genetic engineering procedure. 

1989 - 13 years old. I started secondary school. My mother insisted I attend Denefield School in Reading, which was much farther away from my home than from the other schools I could have attended. I later discovered that Denefield was connected to Project Mannequin in more ways than one. Here I was the target of nearly every bully in the school. These boys were older, bigger, and stronger than me. I believed I was helpless against them. 

One afternoon, I was attacked on the field by two older boys who then proceeded to break my arm and some of the bones in my face. I was lying on the ground with my arm broken, and they stomped on my face. My mother was called, and she took me to hospital. I remember feeling no pain on the way to hospital. My arm was mangled, and metal plates were put in. I spent weeks in hospital recovering. 

When I came out of hospital, I discovered child pornography tapes in my step-father’s bedroom and watched them. These included children being raped in Masonic lodges by men dressed up in Egyptian-type robes. It also included homosexual orgies in these lodges, where the men were positioned in triangle patterns on the floor. My step-father was abusing me! The beatings by the older boys continued at school and in my local area after school. I believed there was no escape for me and dissociated further in my mind. 

1989 - 13 years old. I attended a local fair in Reading town centre with a group of friends. I smoked my first joint before we entered. I saw the older boys who had been bullying me, and they saw me. They followed me to the far end of the fair, and two of them dragged me around the back of the toilets, pulled my coat over my head, and gave me a beating. When this was finished, my coat was stuck over my face tightly and was suffocating me. I couldn’t pull it off. A boy watching came out of the crowd and ripped it off me. I stood up and saw one of the boys who had just beaten me up, standing with his group of friends. He was around 17-years-old, and I was terrified of him. I suddenly felt an energy of courage and strength enter me. I ran over to him and knocked him out with one punch. All his friends were shocked and stepped back. This gave myself, and the friend I was with, time to get out of the fair. We walked across the bridge and looked back to see the gang of approximately fifteen youngsters running after us and over fifty youngsters running after them to watch the action. My friend yelled “run,” and we sprinted off. If we could make it past the bridge and into the pub at the end of the street, we would be safe. Just as I thought this, a black boy raced ahead of the crowd and started to catch up with us. His speed was incredible. I believed if I got caught, I would die. 

He grabbed hold of me and held me until the others caught up with us. We were caught 37 under the dark bridge just before the pub. They left my friend alone, but I was sat upon by the smaller group, while the large crowd gathered around to watch. A long, drawnout beating commenced, while my friend screamed for them to stop. At one point, I felt if I were hit in the face again, I would die. At this point, my consciousness left my body. I then saw the scene from above looking down on my own body, but my body was still fighting. 

  A large Jamaican lad came toward me to finish me off, and I hit him with a right cross that knocked him on his back. I then covered up, as ferocious blows started to reign in again from the others. I laid on the floor semi-conscious, and my shoes and jacket were taken. A couple of spectators from the larger crowd now ran in and kicked me in the head. Eventually, everyone headed off, and my friend bravely followed to try and get my shoes and jacket back. The lad, whom I knocked out at the fair, came back to attack me again while I was lying on the floor. My friend ran back and screamed, “He’s had enough!” He looked at me on the floor, and the walked off. 

As I lay on the road, cars were driving around me, and no one stopped to help me. My friend came over and took me to the pub. We rang my mother to come and take me to the hospital. When my mother and step-father picked me up and take me to the hospital, I could remember ringing my mother, and just after this, I forgot my own name. My face and head were horribly swollen, and the doctor said I was lucky to be alive and whoever did this, were “animals.” I stayed in the hospital for a few days of observation. My family unit was fully DID by this time, and compartmentalizing trauma came very easily now. I never saw my friend again after this. 

1990 - 14 years old. My mother decided “enough is enough” and moved me down to St. Ives, Cornwall with my father, who had just been released from prison for drug trafficking. I went through my 3rd OSIRIS genetic engineering procedure just after this on my 15th birthday, and the handlers of Mannequin now stepped up training and ops to the next level. I later discovered that my NSA handlers needed to have me in a less built-up rural area, as the number of my vehicle pick-ups had increased. Within one week, I was set about by the local gang on the sea front even though I had done nothing. I now carried weapons most of the time, as I had sworn to not be hurt anymore, so I proceeded to batter them with nun-chucks. No one messed with me after that. I got home and broke down in tears. “Why does everyone hate me?” 

I met a local boy who was also programmed, I found out later, and we ordered replica guns from a magazine. We then decided to rob the local Spar supermarket with masks on. On the way to the shop, my friend got scared and changed his mind. I said to him, “There’s nothing to it, but to do it,” and ran into the shop, and he ran in behind me. I stuck my replica Berretta in the face of the girl behind the till and demanded the money. My friend made a few of the people, who were standing around, go to the back of the shop as he held them at gunpoint. The girl went pale and became unresponsive as I demanded the money. I jumped over the counter and tried to open the till myself. I don’t know what button to press, so I began to push them randomly. An alarm went off on the till, and people in the back of the shop began to shout. 

I panicked and actually shouted my friend’s real name, “xxxx, lets go!” We ran out of the shop and ran home. We told my father what we’d done, and he seemed proud of me for it. Approximately half and hour later, there was an armed response on the street outside the flat. My father hid the replica guns at the back of the flat for us. We waited for the door to be kicked in, and it never came. The unit was there for the young lad who lived next door, as he had been in trouble with air guns in the past and was a prime suspect for the armed robbery in our small community. The next day, the robbery was on the local news, and my father seemed even more proud of me. 

The police ended up catching up with us a couple of weeks later, as I basically told my girlfriend what I had done trying to impress her. She ended up telling her father, who was a policeman. My friend and I ended up in Truro Crown Court. My solicitor told my mother that I could face years in prison. We ended up being sentenced to 28 days! I had never seen pain on my mother’s face like just before and when we were sentenced. She twisted her face up into inhuman shapes and expressions when I looked at her from the dock. I had seen her do this before, when she was angry, but never like this. The other boy’s mother did not do this. 

I was transferred to Feltham Young Offenders Institute, and there were boys there who were serving years for armed robbery with a knife. I was accused of being a police informant by the other boys for having such a low sentence. Bullying was rife here, but strangely enough, I was left alone as I stood up to the top dog on the first day. He beat another boy with a sock containing toiletries the moment I got on the wing and then threw the weapon on my bed in my cell. I took the weapon and walked straight up to him, looked him in the eye, grabbed his hand, and placed it in his hand. I said to him, “I don’t want to be involved in this.” 

Three boys in my wing attempted suicide during the short time I was there. There were rumours of sexual abuse taking place in one of the shared cells, and this cell was shut down. At night, I heard guards coming up the metal stairs, doors being opened, and boys taken somewhere and returned later. When I came out of prison, no one wanted to mess with me. I had now acquired degenerate thinking. I thought guns, weapons, and violence were the way to happiness, as people would fear me and not hurt me anymore. 

1992 - 16 years old. I had not long been out of prison, as the criminal case took about a year to go to court. I was on license and signed a document saying I was prohibited by law to have anything to do with all firearms for a certain amount of time. I was back in St. Ives, and my mother went away for a few days; she left my aunty in charge of me. I received a phone call and told her I was going to Brighton, and there was nothing she could do about it. I got my first tattoo, which resembles an evil alien face, on my right shoulder and jumped on the train to Brighton. 

  When I got off, “John,” one of the male members of my unit, was waiting for me. I can’t recall exactly what was said, but he handed me a bag with a loaded 9mm Smith and Wesson in it. The gist of the conversation was basically this: “You know your target, here’s the gun, go and get him.” I walked down to the sea front and waited outside a bar. There was man sitting outside on a table drinking a pint of beer. He had short, sandy-coloured hair, a short muscular build, and was wearing a short sleeved shirt.  

  I was fixated upon him. I took the gun out of the bag, slipped off the safety, and walked up to him. I then emptied most of the clip into his head and chest and saved a couple of bullets in case anyone tried to stop me as I ran off. When I started to shoot, everything went quiet in my mind. I was later told by a man involved in the intelligence community that the hit was carried out for the famous politician I saw in the AL/499 when I was ten years old. 

I ran off after I killed the man, and the next thing I remember was sitting on a beach over half a mile away. I was coming down from a huge rush of adrenaline, and I felt very pleased with myself, as if my superiors were going to be very happy. Maybe they wouldn’t hurt me anymore, I thought. I took off my clothes and went for a swim in my boxer shorts. 

After this, I walked further along the sea front, and “Jenny,” the one female member of my unit, met me, took the bag off me, and proceeded to give me various post hypnotic commands. I forgot what I had just done and returned home on the train. After this, I attended a party at my auntie’s house in Brighton, and a girl told me about a shooting on the sea front. When she told me this, I didn’t even remember doing it. This timeline will be continued in the next chapter, as it emotionally exhausting writing this. 

CHAPTER SIX - The SUBLIME VIEW 

When I’m an old man, I don’t want to look back upon my life and remember that I was some kind of prophet of doom who brought fear into the lives of millions of people. My work has now reached millions, and I need to be careful. My message is ultimately one of love and peace, which is the Pleiadian paradigm. A win-win situation were every man, woman, and child on this planets benefits. 

The corrupt Illuminati paradigm wishes to see the destruction of the so-called Goyim - all the people on earth who are not “New Israelites.” When our unit was involved in RV ops in London in the 90’s, we were told things like, “when it all goes down, people like you will run the planet for us.” Many times, the elite were called underground to the CLC-1 facility under Parliament when there were threats of a nuclear attack on the UK. Barry King was paired up with a certain female in this facility in the past in this exact situation. 

It was a C.O.G (Continuity of Government) type operation with the Illuminati wanting to repopulate the earth with offspring of the most gifted, to rise from the ashes like the phoenix. Fortunately, this never happened. Immanuel’s message was that all people, Jew and Gentile, could see the New Jerusalem of peace and prosperity on earth. This is what the future holds, and the Pleiadians are not going to see this planet get flushed  down the pan. I’m honored and grateful to be able to carry this message. What gives me the right to speak for the Pleiadians?       

  The simple answer is that I’ve been in direct contact with them since I was child. Part of my role in Project Mannequin was to make telepathic contact with the large Pleiadian mother ships in the outer atmosphere and then pass the messages onto Commander Clavius and other people. This was all done while I was in the tripseat. 

I’ve had that much contact with them over the years that a whole book could be written on this subject alone. Some of the messages in Mannequin had to do with the fact that the Pleiadians would not stand for the abuse occurring in these military facilities, and Aldebaran federation forces would be taking direct military action against them. This is not a chapter about “exo-politics” but the M.I.E.C forces have control over something known as the Tablets of Destiny, which is basically a network of large exotic crystal based computers 

These are linked in a geometrical grid pattern around the world and can trigger large scale disasters such as tidal waves, hurricanes, and earthquakes. Anyone who has investigated this subject would be familiar with the H.A.A.R.P scalar weather warfare system based in Alaska. This is part of the T.O.D super computer. Ultimately, mankind is being held hostage by this system. People often ask why don’t the Pleiadians come in and rescue us and all the children being abused in underground bases, if all the ships are positioned around the planet? 

The answer is because of the Tablets of Destiny. Yes, the large Pleiadian craft are here. Anyone who attended the Probe International conference in the past saw the proof. My colleague “Duncan” presented the many coloured photographs of these ships - some over five miles long - to hundreds of stunned people in attendance. You could hear the gasps from the audience as people’s breath was taken away. 

These photographs were taken by another friend of mine, known on the internet as Simon Anderson and John Leonard Walson, using advanced photography equipment that takes pictures of objects in the outer atmosphere. JLW has filmed so many ships that I cannot cover them all here. His work has been included in the huge Rense.com website and a small amount of footage can be seen here: 

My most recent Pleiadian contacts brought word of direct military action by Aldebaran federation forces against certain strategic locations in Britain, America, and Australia. These attacks and liberations were utilized using “excaliber” type technology. This is sonic, ground-penetrating weaponry that attacks deep underground but leaves the surface unharmed. This message was given to me on the night of August 25th by several small scout craft positioned overhead in a certain location in Scotland were I am now based. 

The attacks would take place between the 25th and 30th August, I was told. A couple of days later, I was told by Lincoln that he’d heard of a huge explosion and fire in the underground facility at Montauk, where the Phoenix mind control project is being run. He also informed me that the mag-lev underground tube shuttle system had been shut down between the bases in New Mexico. All the terminals had been closed and this went on for an unusually long time. 

  Anyway, I don’t want to dwell on the warlike aspect of the Pleiadians. I want to focus on the joy and ecstasy that comes with having a heart link with them, especially the female aspect of their civilization. They are a Goddess-based society, which venerates females and family. The feeling of the energy is similar to being in love. Children with Pleiadian genetics are highly sought after in Mannequin and are known under such codenames as Platinum Blues and Digital Children. 

These are the most joyful and angelic children whose physic abilities come from the ability to feel love and the feelings of another being. The people used in the project are like the phoenix. They are individuals of such passion and fire that their souls are often too powerful for their bodies. It often takes to their 30th birthday to learn how to slow down and take care and control over their physical bodies. 

Basically, during my telepathic contacts with them, I have written down what they told me. I have a whole box full of this information in a safe location. An individual approached me and offered to purchase them but we could not agree on the right price. I am glad now I did not sell them. Much of the information is almost identical word for word as such Pleiadian-channeled books as Awakening Your Divine Ka and The Pleiadian Light Workbook by Amorah Quan Yin and The Pleiadian Light Body DNA Activation Program by Gill Patterson. I had not read these books when I received the precipitation transmissions from the Pleiadians. They teach you how to ascend your consciousness into higher dimensions - they take a person higher. The energy is sexual as PSI and sexual is one in the same. Gill Petterson calls the human lightworkers on earth “sacred sexual master beings of light.” 

As the ecstasy takes you, an individual is able to remote view and do other things. As I rise out of my body, I see the house, then the town, then the country in my sublime view. I then go so high I hold the whole planet in my palm so to speak. I am then able to project my consciousness almost anywhere in the world and see what is going on. By reading this, part of my spirit is now with you. I've already gone public with the exact scientific method I use to RV on the Godlikeproductions forum, so I won't include it here. 

According to various NSA scientists who have briefed me, over 1000 man-hours have been put into exploring the limits of how far a remote viewer can see. They talk about Seven Superdomains, which basically point toward the human having “the mind of God” when developed and can see across the universe. There is a limit and the NSA scientists call this the T-Boundary or through-boundary. 

THE KNIGHTS 

The intelligence community consists of modern-day knights, and the people who work with me are some of the individuals who are still human and haven’t been taken over. I will explain what I mean by this statement. The knightly Masonic orders were originally set up to directly combat dangerous extra-terrestrial life forms, but nowadays, many of the orders have been taken over by the same beings who were their sworn enemies. This makes perfect sense, as one of the most effective military strategies is to infiltrate and subvert your enemy. 

Amongst the most dangerous reptilians on earth now is the Chimera, or shapeshifter, who walks amongst us and appears as a man. More and more Chimeras are presently embedded in the human population. Many of the underground bases in the U.K. and U.S. have DNA scanners located at the topside exits that are guarded by armed personnel. These alarms are triggered on these scanners if an alien or enhanced clone in human form attempts to leave the facility without permission. 

Do not be fooled into thinking the human military have this situation under control. However, they attempt to do their best. All other known human exits without DNA scanners are monitored 24/7 from satellite. One of the major problems the Chimera cause is when they take the human form of a world leader, which they often do. I have seen the famous politician I mentioned in Chapter 5 more than once in various underground facilities around the U.K. More than once, I knew it was not the original man but a reptilian that had taken on his form. This individual also has several clones, as well. He carries a beautiful 9mm Smith and Wesson (a favourite gun of the NSA). This pistol has a pearl handle grip with a symbol of a dragon on it. 

High-ranking members of the intelligence community will know who I’m talking about. I’ll leave it at that for the time being. As I said, the Chimeras look like men but are not men. It is not for humans to understand the mind of malevolent xenos. This is totally alien and beyond our comprehension. Their centers of operation are located deep in the earth under the sub-surface military bases and also on their huge spacecraft. RV scans reveal cave-like interiors inside these places, which resemble huge insect colonies, with some xenos over 18 feet tall. Many of their spacecraft are organic rocklike structures 

The inherent vileness of these places and beings is physically transmitted and felt when around them. These Centres of Operations often have hundreds of thousands of human men, women, and children in cryogenic stasis pods to be used as food. Whether these are clones or real humans, I do not know. However, classified DIA (Defence Intelligence Agency) increasingly large amounts of children going missing in the U.K. and U.S. X13 also informed of the disturbing disclosure that one million cryogenically frozen children had been given by the Greys to the Draco Prime ship behind the Hale-Bopp comet as tribute. 

These beings are anathema to all our values. As we love, so they hate. As we are strengthened and fed by peace, they are strengthened and fed by fear. They are actually a dying race who has progressed too far down the road of technology without balancing their emotional developing. They have turned into organic machines because of this.  

I’ve been warned I could be killed even more quickly for disclosing the next piece of information, as it’s so close to home; however, with all the secrecy falling apart, it hardly matters now. The cat is well and truly out of the bag. This concerns the recent spate of suicides of young people in the town of Bridgend in Wales. Twenty three individuals have killed themselves in 20 months here. Seven deaths were linked as a possible “cluster.” The population is only 32,000 here. Dale Crole, 18, hanged himself in a derelict warehouse on January, 5th 2007. His friend, David Dillings, 19, hanged himself on February 18th. Thomas Davies, 20, who knew both of them, hanged himself in a park a week later. Zachary Barnes, 17, who hanged himself on August 11th, is also believed to have known the other victims. 

In December, Liam Clarke, a friend of Crole, was found hanged in a park. Gareth Morgan, 27, who knew Clarke, died on January 5th this year. Natasha Randell, 17, posted a tribute message to Clarke on her Bebo page two days before she hanged herself on January 17th. On February 13th, Kelly Stephenson was found hanged a few hours after her cousin Nathaniel Pritchard, 15, was declared dead following a suspected suicide. The two cousins were said to be “very close,” and on one of Ms. Stephenson’s Bebo pages, there were tributes to Clarke, Randell and Barnes. Jenna Parry, 16, found hanged on the morning of 19th February, was thought to be a close friend of at least one other victim. 

So what is going on here really? I was directly briefed by British Intelligence that in five of the news reports, there were members of MI-6 and Group 5-8 special forces working on telephone poles and in telephone boxes in the background while cameras where interviewing newscasters. These operatives were searching an “item,” which has recently gone missing from the underground genetics facility below Brecon Beacons in Wales, known as Trapdoor. 

This so called item is a Chimera that has gone AWOL. It is referred to as a “feeder,” as being near to it reveals such feelings as intense suicidal tendencies and depression. The reason being is that it telepathically feeds on the taste of fear. The intel operatives in the news background are a message to the community saying, “we’re attempting to get the situation under control and track this thing down.” The reality of the situation is that the Chimera came into the town and engaged these young people in conversation. It then telepathically hypnotized them with various subliminal suggestions. After this, it went back to the place it was staying (possibly a B&B) and performed a type of remote viewing to the location where the individual was in the process of committing suicide and “fed” off the energies being released here. Modern scientific investigations are now reporting that some reptile species on earth have a type of orgasm when they die, as huge amounts of endorphins are released. 

Recently, there have been reports of the famous Lizard Man of South Carolina. One media report is as follows:   

“Sighting of the Lizard Man of Scape Ore Swamp (also known as The Lizard Man of Lee County) was a major media event. 

First with one sighting and then others, it was said to be a humanoid cryptid, perhaps a merbeing, inhabiting areas of swampland in and around Lee County, South Carolina. 

The Lizard Man was described at the time as being quite tall, bipedal, and having what appeared to be scaly skin and glowing red eyes. In the popular media rendering, it was said to have three toes on each foot and three fingers on each hand that end in long black claw-like nails.        

The first reported sighting of the Scape Ore creature occurred on June 29, 1988 but was soon followed by others, including information that was revealed about an earlier sighting in 1987.” 

Now, almost exactly twenty years after the initial media flap of the Scape Ore event, is the Lizard Man back? Just recently, I received word from Lincoln that a reptilian had breached one of the above-ground exits at the Oak Ridge NSA facility. He informed me of a phone call he received the night of the recent reports of the Lizard Man (I won’t detail the case, as it was included in the mainstream media of America and can be read on the internet). The phone call was from Oak Ridge and relayed the message that the place was on red alert after a reptilian had breached the area and was being hunted by DELTA Special Forces units. 

Apparently, one of the treaties had fallen through with the Draco and U.S. government, and this was a psychological warfare tactic by the Draco basically saying, “If you don’t do what we say, we’ll come onto the surface and cause terror.” This is exactly what this thing did when it attacked a car in the area and scratched the front with its claws. See picture below 

PHOTO 1 – Car scratched by Reptilian ET 

Also see Photo 2 of Oak Ridge facility supplied by Lincoln: 

PHOTO 2 – Oak Ridge facility where Looking Glass device is based. 

Photo 3 shows the ROWS (Remote Operational Weapons System) hardware at Oak Ridge. This is a heat-seeking mechanized rifle system that automatically locks onto anything in its sensor range. It fires upon the command of guard underground (photo supplied by Lincoln): 

PHOTO 3 – ROWS (Remote Operational Weapons System) 

           

Photo 4 shows one of the separator pumps at the Dulce genetics facility. Taken from Level 5, this is for working with blood plasma (photo supplied by Lincoln): 

PHOTO 4 - Separator pumps at the Dulce genetics facility Photo 5 shows Barry King and me together at my flat in St Ives: 

  PHOTO 5 – Barry King (l) and Michael Prince (James Casbolt) (r ) 48 Photo 6 shows one of Lincoln’s security badges. He has to wear four of them at all times. All four are for different purposes. One is his permanent badge, one is daily, one is door scanner/retina scan badge, and the other is for lower level access. All badges, except daily badges, remain in base at all times. They do not leave with anyone. They are turned in with coveralls when you leave. This is Lincoln’s daily badge. The strip next to his employee number is turning pink/reddish in colour. This strip turns pink if you don’t scan it with an ultra-violet badge scanner. Basically, the badge goes bad to prevent forgery. 

PHOTO 6 – Lincoln’s security badge 49 Photo 7 shows a reptilian that has been killed and beheaded in the jungle of South America by local shamans: 

PHOTO 7 – Head of dead reptilian ET 

CHAPTER SEVEN - CONVERGENCE of the STARCHILDREN 

  In August 2006, I made the following prediction on the Edge AM radio broadcast. I stated we are close to a worldwide stock market collapse followed by an Arab-backed Russian military invasion of the U.S. and U.K. 

The global stock market collapse has now occurred, and it is time to ask yourself this question: 

Why are masses of Russian and Polish immigrants being let into the U.K? 

If a Russian invasion were being planned, would there be less resistance if the population were mixed together? 

We were told years ago that the U.K. and U.S. would become training grounds for Russian Special Forces, such as Spetsnaz (Russian Special Purpose Regiments) working together with private security firms such as Wackenhut. 

I’ve nothing against the Russian KGB/FSB, as I’m friends with ex-KGB agents such as John Symons. 

Most of these guys are just puppets because again we have a group of 33rd degree and above masons working together and controlling the Russian, American, and British governments. 

These people are now playing out a “Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse” scenario. 

This will cause religious uproar amongst Christian, Muslim, etc. fundamentalists. 

This is all planned to do just that, of course. 

The four stages, or horsemen, of the New World Order are as follows (and it all begins with the global stock market collapse) 

1) Worldwide stock market breakdown - First major attack on the world’s population 

2) Arab-backed Russian invasion of U.S and U.K. - World War 3 

3) Large scale bio-warfare attack on world’s population - “Return of the Plague” situation 

4) Topped off by a false flag Alien invasion with Illuminati and ETs working together - Possibly staged over 2012 Olympic games in London while eyes of the world focused on the event 

  On September 8th, I received this email from X3 (33rd degree of Zion/Illuminati member): 

Dear James The Committee of the Majority (MAJIC) have elected out of the Illuminati (top 300, 33rd degree masons). 

Now putting final plans in place for fake Armageddon scenario. 

Watch Iran and Pakistan. 

Plan is for theater of war to break out in the Middle East- IE Armageddon. 

  Meanwhile Lord Jacob Rothschild and his lodge, through the BIS are attacking the U.S financial system. 

The plan as I understand it is a simultaneous financial attack, then a war with Russia through Iran and Israel, then a bird avian virus attack throughout the USA. 

The microchips of course are in the inoculants manufactured in Switzerland by Rockefellers company. 

If the Lightworkers turn up (Author’s note - Plieadians), which is expected, Project Bluebeam will be initiated- Fake ET invasion. 

Yours in service Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 


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Jeremiah, younger brother of the Woolwich 'terrorist' Michael Adebolajo. 

The Daily Mail has discovered that:

Michael Adebolajo's younger brother Jeremiah 'was paid thousands by MI6 to spy in the Middle East'

Jeremiah Adebolajo, 26, teaches at a university in Saudi Arabia.

Reportedly, MI6 recruited him as a spy.

He was flown business class to five-star hotels and handed cash.

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The source for the Mail is the Adebolajo family and a well-placed person who contacted The Mail on Sunday.

Jeremiah Adebolajo returned to Britain 'this week'.

Jeremiah's sister, Blessing Adebolajo, 32, says Jeremiah was approached by MI6 while he was working at the University of Ha’il.


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A friend of Jeremiah said: "They told Jeremiah to go to certain hotels, order a cup of tea and wait for his contact.

"On these occasions he was handed £300, and was paid to fly first-class and stay in five-star hotels."

Blessing says MI6 bought a ticket so Jeremiah could fly to an Intercontinental hotel in another Middle East country (believed to be the United Arab Emirates) and that he was given local currency worth more than £1,000.


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            How the CIA created Osama bin Laden

                                                                            Green Left Newspaper Wednesday, September 19, 2001
                                                                                                                          BY NORM DIXON
                                                                                                        http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/24198
 
 
 
Throughout the world ... its agents, client states and satellites are on the defensive — on the moral defensive, the intellectual defensive, and the political and economic defensive. Freedom movements arise and assert themselves. They're doing so on almost every continent populated by man — in the hills of Afghanistan, in Angola, in Kampuchea, in Central America ... [They are] freedom fighters."
Is this a call to jihad (holy war) taken from one of Islamic fundamentalist Osama bin Laden's notorious fatwas? Or perhaps a communique issued by the repressive Taliban regime in Kabul?
In fact, this glowing praise of the murderous exploits of today's supporters of arch-terrorist bin Laden and his Taliban collaborators, and their holy war against the "evil empire", was issued by US President Ronald Reagan on March 8, 1985. The "evil empire" was the Soviet Union, as well as Third World movements fighting US-backed colonialism, apartheid and dictatorship.
How things change. In the aftermath of a series of terrorist atrocities — the most despicable being the mass murder of more than 6000 working people in New York and Washington on September 11 — bin Laden the "freedom fighter" is now lambasted by US leaders and the Western mass media as a "terrorist mastermind" and an "evil-doer".
Yet the US government refuses to admit its central role in creating the vicious movement that spawned bin Laden, the Taliban and Islamic fundamentalist terrorists that plague Algeria and Egypt — and perhaps the disaster that befell New York.
The mass media has also downplayed the origins of bin Laden and his toxic brand of Islamic fundamentalism.

Mujaheddin

In April 1978, the People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA) seized power in Afghanistan in reaction to a crackdown against the party by that country's repressive government.
The PDPA was committed to a radical land reform that favoured the peasants, trade union rights, an expansion of education and social services, equality for women and the separation of church and state. The PDPA also supported strengthening Afghanistan's relationship with the Soviet Union.
Such policies enraged the wealthy semi-feudal landlords, the Muslim religious establishment (many mullahs were also big landlords) and the tribal chiefs. They immediately began organising resistance to the government's progressive policies, under the guise of defending Islam.
Washington, fearing the spread of Soviet influence (and worse the new government's radical example) to its allies in Pakistan, Iran and the Gulf states, immediately offered support to the Afghan mujaheddin, as the "contra" force was known.
Following an internal PDPA power struggle in December 1979 which toppled Afghanistan's leader, thousands of Soviet troops entered the country to prevent the new government's fall. This only galvanised the disparate fundamentalist factions. Their reactionary jihad now gained legitimacy as a "national liberation" struggle in the eyes of many Afghans.
The Soviet Union was eventually to withdraw from Afghanistan in 1989 and the mujaheddin captured the capital, Kabul, in 1992.
Between 1978 and 1992, the US government poured at least US$6 billion (some estimates range as high as $20 billion) worth of arms, training and funds to prop up the mujaheddin factions. Other Western governments, as well as oil-rich Saudi Arabia, kicked in as much again. Wealthy Arab fanatics, like Osama bin Laden, provided millions more.
Washington's policy in Afghanistan was shaped by US President Jimmy Carter's national security advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and was continued by his successors. His plan went far beyond simply forcing Soviet troops to withdraw; rather it aimed to foster an international movement to spread Islamic fanaticism into the Muslim Central Asian Soviet republics to destabilise the Soviet Union.
Brzezinski's grand plan coincided with Pakistan military dictator General Zia ul-Haq's own ambitions to dominate the region. US-run Radio Liberty and Radio Free Europe beamed Islamic fundamentalist tirades across Central Asia (while paradoxically denouncing the "Islamic revolution" that toppled the pro-US Shah of Iran in 1979).

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Washington's favoured mujaheddin faction was one of the most extreme, led by Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. The West's distaste for terrorism did not apply to this unsavoury "freedom fighter". Hekmatyar was notorious in the 1970s for throwing acid in the faces of women who refused to wear the veil.
After the mujaheddin took Kabul in 1992, Hekmatyar's forces rained US-supplied missiles and rockets on that city — killing at least 2000 civilians — until the new government agreed to give him the post of prime minister. Osama bin Laden was a close associate of Hekmatyar and his faction.
Hekmatyar was also infamous for his side trade in the cultivation and trafficking in opium. Backing of the mujaheddin from the CIA coincided with a boom in the drug business. Within two years, the Afghanistan-Pakistan border was the world's single largest source of heroin, supplying 60% of US drug users.
In 1995, the former director of the CIA's operation in Afghanistan was unrepentant about the explosion in the flow of drugs: "Our main mission was to do as much damage as possible to the Soviets... There was a fallout in terms of drugs, yes. But the main objective was accomplished. The Soviets left Afghanistan."

Made in the USA

According to Ahmed Rashid, a correspondent for the Far Eastern Economic Review, in 1986 CIA chief William Casey committed CIA support to a long-standing ISI proposal to recruit from around the world to join the Afghan jihad. At least 100,000 Islamic militants flocked to Pakistan between 1982 and 1992 (some 60,000 attended fundamentalist schools in Pakistan without necessarily taking part in the fighting).
John Cooley, a former journalist with the US ABC television network and author of Unholy Wars: Afghanistan, America and International Terrorism, has revealed that Muslims recruited in the US for the mujaheddin were sent to Camp Peary, the CIA's spy training camp in Virginia, where young Afghans, Arabs from Egypt and Jordan, and even some African-American "black Muslims" were taught "sabotage skills".
The November 1, 1998, British Independent reported that one of those charged with the 1998 bombings of US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, Ali Mohammed, had trained "bin Laden's operatives" in 1989.
These "operatives" were recruited at the al Kifah Refugee Centre in Brooklyn, New York, given paramilitary training in the New York area and then sent to Afghanistan with US assistance to join Hekmatyar's forces. Mohammed was a member of the US army's elite Green Berets.
The program, reported the Independent, was part of a Washington-approved plan called "Operation Cyclone".
In Pakistan, recruits, money and equipment were distributed to the mujaheddin factions by an organisation known as Maktab al Khidamar (Office of Services — MAK).
MAK was a front for Pakistan's CIA, the Inter-Service Intelligence Directorate. The ISI was the first recipient of the vast bulk of CIA and Saudi Arabian covert assistance for the Afghan contras. Bin Laden was one of three people who ran MAK. In 1989, he took overall charge of MAK.
Among those trained by Mohammed were El Sayyid Nosair, who was jailed in 1995 for killing Israeli rightist Rabbi Meir Kahane and plotting with others to bomb New York landmarks, including the World Trade Center in 1993.
The Independent also suggested that Shiekh Omar Abdel-Rahman, an Egyptian religious leader also jailed for the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, was also part of Operation Cyclone. He entered the US in 1990 with the CIA's approval. A confidential CIA report concluded that the agency was "partly culpable" for the 1993 World Trade Center blast, the Independent reported.

Bin Laden

Osama bin Laden, one of 20 sons of a billionaire construction magnate, arrived in Afghanistan to join the jihad in 1980. An austere religious fanatic and business tycoon, bin Laden specialised in recruiting, financing and training the estimated 35,000 non-Afghan mercenaries who joined the mujaheddin.
The bin Laden family is a prominent pillar of the Saudi Arabian ruling class, with close personal, financial and political ties to that country's pro-US royal family.
Bin Laden senior was appointed Saudi Arabia's minister of public works as a favour by King Faisal. The new minister awarded his own construction companies lucrative contracts to rebuild Islam's holiest mosques in Mecca and Medina. In the process, the bin Laden family company in 1966 became the world's largest private construction company.
Osama bin Laden's father died in 1968. Until 1994, he had access to the dividends from this ill-gotten business empire.
(Bin Laden junior's oft-quoted personal fortune of US$200-300 million has been arrived at by the US State Department by dividing today's value of the bin Laden family net worth — estimated to be US$5 billion — by the number of bin Laden senior's sons. A fact rarely mentioned is that in 1994 the bin Laden family disowned Osama and took control of his share.)
Osama's military and business adventures in Afghanistan had the blessing of the bin Laden dynasty and the reactionary Saudi Arabian regime. His close working relationship with MAK also meant that the CIA was fully aware of his activities.
Milt Bearden, the CIA's station chief in Pakistan from 1986 to 1989, admitted to the January 24, 2000, New Yorker that while he never personally met bin Laden, "Did I know that he was out there? Yes, I did ... [Guys like] bin Laden were bringing $20-$25 million a month from other Saudis and Gulf Arabs to underwrite the war. And that is a lot of money. It's an extra $200-$300 million a year. And this is what bin Laden did."
In 1986, bin Laden brought heavy construction equipment from Saudi Arabia to Afghanistan. Using his extensive knowledge of construction techniques (he has a degree in civil engineering), he built "training camps", some dug deep into the sides of mountains, and built roads to reach them.
These camps, now dubbed "terrorist universities" by Washington, were built in collaboration with the ISI and the CIA. The Afghan contra fighters, including the tens of thousands of mercenaries recruited and paid for by bin Laden, were armed by the CIA. Pakistan, the US and Britain provided military trainers.
Tom Carew, a former British SAS soldier who secretly fought for the mujaheddin told the August 13, 2000, British Observer, "The Americans were keen to teach the Afghans the techniques of urban terrorism — car bombing and so on — so that they could strike at the Russians in major towns ... Many of them are now using their knowledge and expertise to wage war on everything they hate."
Al Qaeda (the Base), bin Laden's organisation, was established in 1987-88 to run the camps and other business enterprises. It is a tightly-run capitalist holding company — albeit one that integrates the operations of a mercenary force and related logistical services with "legitimate" business operations.
Bin Laden has simply continued to do the job he was asked to do in Afghanistan during the 1980s — fund, feed and train mercenaries. All that has changed is his primary customer. Then it was the ISI and, behind the scenes, the CIA. Today, his services are utilised primarily by the reactionary Taliban regime.
Bin Laden only became a "terrorist" in US eyes when he fell out with the Saudi royal family over its decision to allow more than 540,000 US troops to be stationed on Saudi soil following Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.
When thousands of US troops remained in Saudi Arabia after the end of the Gulf War, bin Laden's anger turned to outright opposition. He declared that Saudi Arabia and other regimes — such as Egypt — in the Middle East were puppets of the US, just as the PDPA government of Afghanistan had been a puppet of the Soviet Union.
He called for the overthrow of these client regimes and declared it the duty of all Muslims to drive the US out of the Gulf states. In 1994, he was stripped of his Saudi citizenship and forced to leave the country. His assets there were frozen.
After a period in Sudan, he returned to Afghanistan in May 1996. He refurbished the camps he had helped build during the Afghan war and offered the facilities and services — and thousands of his mercenaries — to the Taliban, which took power that September.
Today, bin Laden's private army of non-Afghan religious fanatics is a key prop of the Taliban regime.
Prior to the devastating September 11 attack on the twin towers of World Trade Center, US ruling-class figures remained unrepentant about the consequences of their dirty deals with the likes of bin Laden, Hekmatyar and the Taliban. Since the awful attack, they have been downright hypocritical.
In an August 28, 1998, report posted on MSNBC, Michael Moran quotes Senator Orrin Hatch, who was a senior member of the Senate Intelligence Committee which approved US dealings with the mujaheddin, as saying he would make "the same call again", even knowing what bin Laden would become.
"It was worth it. Those were very important, pivotal matters that played an important role in the downfall of the Soviet Union."
Hatch today is one of the most gung-ho voices demanding military retaliation.
Another face that has appeared repeatedly on television screens since the attack has been Vincent Cannistrano, described as a former CIA chief of "counter-terrorism operations".
Cannistrano is certainly an expert on terrorists like bin Laden, because he directed their "work". He was in charge of the CIA-backed Nicaraguan contras during the early 1980s. In 1984, he became the supervisor of covert aid to the Afghan mujaheddin for the US National Security Council.
The last word goes to Zbigniew Brzezinski: "What was more important in the world view of history? The Taliban or the fall of the Soviet Empire? A few stirred up Muslims or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War?"

From GLW issue 465


Bin Laden dead, but US wars continue

Tuesday, May 3, 2011
 
 
US airforce bombs Rahesh village in northern Afghanistan, 2009. Photo from RAWA.org.
 
A billionaire, mass murdering criminal is dead, but the symbiotic processes of empire and terrorism that breed inequality, war, occupation, torture and dispossession are alive and well.
Thank goodness for independent media such as Democracy Now! Today's program offers sober, historically informed commentary on the death of Osama Bin Laden, killed yesterday in a US Special Forces operation in Pakistan.
A day like today reminds us why independent media is so essential. In the hands of most of the corporate media, Bin Laden's death is detached from its historical context and treated as merely an occasion for jingoistic self-congratulation.
Speaking of which, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper was quick to issue a statement on Bin Laden's death, which included an unsubtle justification for his unpopular policy of extending Canada's war in Afghanistan.
It's utter nonsense, of course. First of all, it's worth remembering that Bin Laden and his cohort of terrorists were themselves incubated by foreign invasion, occupation and torture — the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the CIA-backed armed resistance there, the torture-chambers of a secular dictatorship in Egypt, and so forth.
These are the roots of Al-Qaeda and no one can doubt that the past decade's wars, occupations and torture have sown the seeds for new and unexpected “blowback”.
Then there's the fact that the over 100,000 foreign troops and mercenaries occupying Afghanistan have scarcely even been pretending to be chasing Al-Qaeda in that country since soon after fall 2001.
Even U.S. government sources estimate that there are less than 100 operatives from that terror network in Afghanistan.
No, what the war in Afghanistan has been about for the better part of the past decade has been propping up a corrupt puppet government chalk full of warlords and drug traffickers, including many former colleagues of Osama Bin Laden.
The fundamentalist thugs in Karzai's government share Bin Laden's extreme conservatism and misogyny, but this can scarcely be mentioned since their militias kill for 'our' side.





A media that provided relevant historical context would have given us years of screaming headlines about these sordid kingpins in Karzai's government. Take, for instance, the case of Abdul Rasul Sayyaf, one of the senior fundamentalist warlords in Afghanistan. Sayyaf is reportedly the man who first invited a rich young zealot named Osama Bin Laden to Afghanistan to join the war against the Soviet occupation.
Sayyaf literally built the future Al-Qaeda training camps with Bin Laden. For most of the past decade Sayyaf has sat as a Member of Parliament in Afghanistan supporting the NATO-backed Karzai government.
In fact, he sat in the row right in front of Afghan feminist and anti-war activist Malalai Joya; I only know this because she told me about the day in parliament when he turned around and threatened to kill her.
Joya was later thrown out of parliament for “insulting” thugs like Sayyaf, while Bin Laden's old mentor continues to enjoy his seat and all the attendant respect and privileges.
Sayyaf spends his days in a fortified mansion compound in the district of Paghman, just outside of Afghanistan's capital Kabul, not unlike the mansion outside of Pakistan's capital where Bin Laden was found and assassinated this week by the U.S.
So turn off the cable news scenes of USA-chanting-frat-party-esque revelry and take a minute to remember all the innocent victims of the murderous attacks in Kenya, Tanzania, New York, Pennsylvania and Washington, DC, and the victims of like-minded murderers in Bali, London, Madrid, Mumbai and beyond.
And take a moment, also, to remember the hundreds of thousands dead, the tens of thousands detained and tortured and the millions displaced in the wars (declared and undeclared) and occupations in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Palestine and beyond -- all justified by the rhetoric of the 'war on terror'.
On a day like today we need more than vacuous media cheerleading and the facile justifications of politicians like Harper.
On a day like today we need to honour the victims of war and terrorism, and to recommit to dismantling the unjust systems that produce them.
[Originally posted at Rabble.ca. Derrick O'Keefe is a Canadian anti-war activist and co-author, with Malalai Joya, of Raising My Voice: The Extraordinary Story of an Afghan Who Dares to Speak Out.]

From GLW issue 878

Wikileaks proves: Afghan war unjust and unwinnable
 
 

Wikileaks proves: Afghan war unjust and unwinnable

Sunday, August 1, 2010
“If the people keep identifying democracy as a system that is worst [sic] than the Taliban government, the people will support the anti-coalition forces and the security condition will degenerate”, an unnamed member of the Paktya provincial council is quoted in one of 75,000 classified US reports about the military occupation of Afghanistan published by the Wikileaks website on July 26.
Before publication, the files were shared with journalists from the New York Times, the Guardian and Der Spiegel for authentication and analysis.
Wikileaks acquired more than 91,000 reports, which they dubbed the “Afghan War Diary”. But it said it had “delayed the release of some 15,000 reports from the total archive as part of a harm minimization process demanded by our source”.
The US government reacted to the biggest military intelligence leak in history with a mixture of dismissiveness — playing down the documents by saying there was nothing “new” in them — and anger that “security” had been compromised.
US national security adviser James Jones said the publication of the documents puts the lives of soldiers and civilians at risk, ABC Online said on July 26.

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Adelaide Now on July 29 quoted US Admiral Mike Mullen saying he was “appalled” at the leak.
Yet it seems governments and the media are not appalled by the horrifying content of the reports, which detail civilians being killed and maimed; brutality and lawlessness from the occupying forces and their Afghan puppets; cover-ups; endemic corruption and wide-scale disorganisation in running the occupation effort.
Mullen said the US's strategy would not change.
The response from the Australian government has been equally dismissive. Prime Minister Julia Gillard said the defence department had simply established a task force to examine any material relating to the Australian Defence Force (ADF), the Sydney Morning Herald said on July 27.
The leaked material both confirmed previously reported attacks on civilians by the occupying forces and revealed previously undocumented incidents. It also catalogues systematic under-reporting and cover-ups of such incidents.
The July 26 Guardian said, “the logs demonstrate how much of the … US internal reporting of air strikes is simply false”.
The leaked material shone light on the secretive role of Special Forces units such as Task Force 373, who carry out targeted assassinations and kidnappings of Taliban leaders, working from a hit list of about 2000 names called the “joint prioritised effects list”.
Not only is the legality of extrajudicial executions and abductions questionable, the files show “that TF 373 has also killed civilian men, women and children and even Afghan police officers who have strayed into its path”, the Guardian said.
For example, a report on an unsuccessful attempt to capture or kill Taliban commander Qarl Ur-Rahman on June 11, 2007 said: “The original mission was aborted and TF 373 broke contact and returned to base. Follow-up Report: 7 x ANP KIA, 4 x WIA.”
The acronyms denote that the Special Forces killed seven Afghan police and wounded four.
After seven children were killed by Task Force 373 on June 17, 2007, the occupation forces claimed to the media that the Taliban had used the children as human shields in a firefight.
However, the leaked files show the US press statements “failed to record that TF 373 had fired five rockets, destroying the madrasa and other buildings and killing seven children, before anybody had fired on them — that this looked like a mission to kill and not to capture”, the Guardian said.
“Indeed, this was clearly deliberately suppressed”
In fact, the files reveal that in this instance the US was so keen to hide the fact that the killings resulted from TF 373’s bungled attempt to assassinate an al-Qaeda operative and not, as they claimed, a chance encounter between US forces and the Taliban, that the relevant file was not to be shown even to the non-US component of the occupying forces (such as the British, Germans, Canadians and Australians).
The leaked files also show that many Afghans blame the occupation forces for bringing corruption as well as killing non-combatants.
Supporters of the war have sought to deflect attention from the revelations by criticising Wikileaks founder Julian Assange for revealing the names of Afghan informants who could be targeted by the Taliban.
Australian Defence Association executive director Neil James told the July 28 Sydney Morning Herald: “As an Australian citizen, … Assange may also be guilty of a serious criminal offence by assisting an enemy the ADF is fighting on behalf of all Australians, especially if the assistance was intentional.”
This moralising is deeply hypocritical — the very reports published by Assange detail killings and brutality performed by occupying troops and the warlord-run Afghan government they prop up.
Assange expressed doubt that any informers’ names had been revealed, pointing to the 15,000 files whose release had been delayed for that purpose and suggesting on the ABC’s Lateline on July 29 that the allegations against him were “media manipulation” by the US military.
Nothing can hide the fact that the Afghan War Diary presents a very different picture to the official version offered by the US and Australian governments.
Another revelation is that Pakistan has been supporting the Taliban's insurgency, through its Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and military.
Despite Pakistan being a US ally and its public support of the Afghan government for Hamid Karzai, the reports allege sections of the Pakistani military have been supplying the Taliban with funding, safe-havens and logistical support.
Pakistan has denied the accusations. Former ISI head Hamid Gul said the leak was part of a US plot to remove itself from the war, the Washington Post said on July 28. However, these denials belie Pakistan's real interests in having a friendly force ruling Afghanistan.
Amin Saikal, professor of Political Science at the Australian National University, said on the ABC Drum website on July 28 that, recognising that the US was losing and would eventually leave, the ISI and Pakistani military are backing the Taliban to ensure Afghanistan would “not fall into the hands of any group which may not be receptive or subordinate to Pakistan's regional interests”.
Links between the Taliban and the ISI go back to the Taliban's origins in early 1990s. Indeed, the ISI created the Taliban with CIA approval.
The Afghan War Diary provides an insight into the day-to-day conditions of the war, leaving the idea that this is a “good war” in tatters. Thanks to Wikileaks, justifying the continuation of this war just got a lot harder.

From GLW issue 847

 

Mark Steel on Wikileaks:Shooting the messenger

Sunday, August 1, 2010
 
Why are the British and US governments saying the leak of military documents about Afghanistan has "put our soldiers at risk"? It's us who have been kept hidden from this information, not the Taliban. For example, many of the revelations are previously hidden details of civilian casualties, but Afghans in those areas probably already knew about those deaths.
I don't suppose local insurgents have said: "Well well, I've read the leaked documents, and you know that family whose house was bombed to rubble by an American plane, and the rest of the village arrived and wailed for three days and swore revenge and then there was a funeral that we all went to? Well, it turns out they're dead."
One typical story in the documents tells how in March 2007, following an explosion, marines opened fire with automatic weapons as they drove down a six-mile stretch of road, killing 19 civilians including teenage girls in fields, motorists and an old man. But when they made a military report on the episode, they wrote that after the explosion the "patrol returned to base".
This was accurate, as far as it went. It just missed out the details in between. But I suppose with all the excitement of returning to base you can easily forget the other bit of the afternoon, where you shot up half the neighbourhood.
In any case, those forms are so complicated, who wouldn't miss out on all that box-ticking after a tiring day.
Other documents reveal details of attempts to win over the locals. So one says: "The village of Mamadi is definitely anti-coalition. They want nothing to do with us."

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There are similar accounts, but then an endearingly optimistic report about a visit to a school in Nuristan, that says: "They were very friendly and wanted to talk to us. Some of them threw rocks at the soldiers, but it all appeared to be in good fun."
So it seems the soldiers experienced the traditional friendly Nuristan greeting of rock-hurling. Because as anyone knows, the time to worry in Nuristan is when you say hello and they don't sling a rock at you, then you know you've offended them. But when they see you coming and immediately roll a boulder at your head you're practically family.
Another objection to the leaks is even more unlikely — that the information is irrelevant because it concerns events of a few years ago, before these problems were sorted out.
Indeed, some of these accounts of civilian casualties took place way back in the olden days of 2008, when the war was in its infancy, barely seven years old. And as any military expert knows there are always teething troubles in any war for the first seven years, until year eight when matters suddenly sort themselves out and get settled.
So the main attack has been the traditional one with a leak, to ignore the lies, disasters and deaths revealed, and instead become furious at whoever exposed it all. If you report a murder to the police, you wouldn't expect to turn on the news later and hear: "The police have said they'll do all they can to catch the sick individual who revealed there had been a murder."
If things were going well, they probably wouldn't mind leaks detailing levels of corruption. Unless they said: "Ooh, it had all come together so well it looks like we'll be finished by September, with democracy and all the warlords doing community service, and we were going to announce it as a nice surprise and now you've spoilt it, Wikileaks."
Instead, the documents reveal the Taliban's weaponry is greater than admitted, and the Afghan army is riddled with corruption and victory seems unlikely, far from the official declarations that it's all going to plan.
Secrets are essential, not because of the danger when information gets to insurgents, but because of the danger when information gets to us. For we might conclude that having an army in Afghanistan, for no coherent reason, appears to putting the soldiers and the Afghans at a certain amount of risk.
[First published in the British Independent on July 28]

From GLW issue 847

John Pilger: Wikileaks must be defended



Sunday, August 29, 2010
 
On July 26, Wikileaks released thousands of secret US military files on the war in Afghanistan. Cover-ups, a secret assassination unit and the killing of civilians are documented.
In file after file, the brutalities echo the colonial past. From Malaya and Vietnam to Bloody Sunday in Ireland and Basra in Iraq, little has changed. The difference is that today there is an extraordinary way of knowing how faraway societies are routinely ravaged in our name.
Wikileaks has acquired records of six years of civilian killing for both Afghanistan and Iraq, of which those published in the GuardianDer Spiegel and the New York Timesare a fraction.
There is understandably hysteria on high, with demands that the Wikileaks founder Julian Assange is “hunted down” and “rendered”.
In Washington, I interviewed a senior defence department official and asked: “Can you give a guarantee that the editors of Wikileaks and the editor in chief, who is not American, will not be subjected to the kind of manhunt that we read about in the media?”
He replied, “It’s not my position to give guarantees on anything”. He referred me to the “ongoing criminal investigation” of a US soldier, Bradley Manning, an alleged whistleblower.
In a nation that claims its constitution protects truth-tellers, the Obama administration is pursuing and prosecuting more whistleblowers than any of its modern predecessors. A Pentagon document states bluntly that US intelligence intends to “fatally marginalise” Wikileaks.
The preferred tactic is smear, with corporate journalists ever ready to play their part.

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On 31 July, the US celebrity reporter Christiane Amanapour interviewed US defence secretary Robert Gates on the ABC network. She invited Gates to describe to her viewers his “anger” at Wikileaks.
She echoed the Pentagon line that “this leak has blood on its hands”, thereby cueing Gates to find Wikileaks “guilty” of “moral culpability”.
Such hypocrisy coming from a regime drenched in the blood of the people of Afghanistan and Iraq — as its own files make clear — is apparently not for journalistic enquiry. This is hardly surprising now that a new and fearless form of public accountability, which Wikileaks represents, threatens not only the war-makers but their apologists.
Their current propaganda is that Wikileaks is “irresponsible”. Earlier this year, before it released the cockpit video of a US Apache gunship killing 19 civilians in Iraq, including journalists and children, Wikileaks sent people to Baghdad to find the families of the victims in order to prepare them.
Prior to the release of the Afghan War Logs in July, Wikileaks wrote to the White House asking that it identify names that might draw reprisals. There was no reply.
More than 15,000 files were withheld and these, says Assange, will not be released until they have been scrutinised “line by line” so that names of those at risk can be deleted.
The pressure on Assange himself seems unrelenting. In his homeland, Australia, the shadow foreign minister, Julie Bishop, has said that if her right-wing coalition won the August 21 federal elections, “appropriate action” will be taken “if an Australian citizen has deliberately undertake an activity that could put at risk the lives of Australian forces in Afghanistan or undermine our operations in any way”.
The Australian role in Afghanistan, effectively mercenary in the service of Washington, has produced two striking results: the massacre of five children in a village in Oruzgan province and the overwhelming disapproval of the majority of Australians.
Last May, following the release of the Apache footage, Assange had his Australian passport temporarily confiscated when he returned home. The Labor government in Canberra denied it received requests from Washington to detain him and spy on the Wikileaks network.
The British government also denies this. They would, wouldn’t they? Assange, who came to London in July to work on exposing the war logs, has had to leave Britain hastily for, as he puts it, “safer climes”.
On August 16, the Guardian, citing US Vietnam War-era whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg, described the great Israeli whistleblower Mordechai Vanunu as “the pre-eminent hero of the nuclear age”.
Vanunu, who alerted the world to Israel’s secret nuclear weapons, was kidnapped by the Israelis and incarcerated for 18 years after he was left unprotected by the London Sunday Times, which had published the documents he supplied.
In 1983, another heroic whistleblower, Sarah Tisdall, a British foreign office clerical worker, sent documents to the Guardian that disclosed how the Thatcher government planned to spin the arrival of US cruise missiles in Britain. The Guardian complied with a court order to hand over the documents, and Tisdall went to prison.
In one sense, the Wikileaks revelations shame the dominant section of journalism devoted merely to taking down what cynical and malign power tells it. This is state stenography, not journalism.
Look on the Wikileaks site and read a British defence ministry document that describes the “threat” of real journalism. And so it should be a threat. Having published skilfully the Wikileaks expose of a fraudulent war, the Guardian should now give its most powerful and unreserved editorial support to the protection of Assange and his colleagues, whose truth-telling is as important as any in my lifetime.
I like Assange’s dust-dry wit. When I asked him if it was more difficult to publish secret information in Britain, he replied: “When we look at Official Secrets Act labelled documents we see that they state it is an offence to retain the information and an offence to destroy the information. So the only possible outcome we have is to publish the information.”
[Originally published at Johnpilger.com.]

From GLW issue 850

 

War on Afghanistan: a crime against humanity

Friday, October 8, 2010
 
Statement from the Socialist Alliance National Executive October 8, 2010
On October 17, 2001 the Howard Coalition government deployed Australian troops to Afghanistan, just nine days after the US had begun bombing one of the most poverty stricken and war weary nations on earth.
The then newly-formed Socialist Alliance responded to this attack and its reputed catalyst, the terrorist bombings on New York and Washington some weeks earlier, by noting the US' hypocrisy and pledging to campaign against Bush's “war without end”.
“We are ready to play a part in mobilising the broadest possible opposition to any attempt by US policies and their global allies to use the tragedy as a pretext for military aggression”, we said.
Since then, the Socialist Alliance has maintained its opposition to Australia's commitment to the US-NATO occupation of Afghanistan. We have continued to seek out ways of building community opposition to this (and the Iraq) wars – an opening which could become greater when federal parliament starts its debate.

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This October marks the 10th year since the US and its allies including Australia invaded Afghanistan. The bombing of the poorest country in the world by some of the richest is a crime against humanity. The real purpose of this crime is to further US power in the region.
Its initial legal justification has been called into question since the US and the UK's use of United Nations Article 51 precludes any self-defence which continues after an attack.
Furthermore, the right of self-defence relates to attacks by other nation states, not criminal activity, such as terrorism.
Despite what Western leaders have claimed, the Taliban regime in Afghanistan did not sponsor the 9/11 attacks. While the Al-Qaeda leadership was based in Afghanistan, the terrorists who carried out the attacks (none of whom were Afghan) were residents of Germany and the US. Recent reports even suggest that the Taliban may have attempted to warn of the 9/11 attacks and curtail the activities of Al-Qaeda.
Ironically, the US has engaged in state-sponsored terrorism against Afghanistan since the 1970s. Al-Qaeda is a US-created terrorist outfit that went rogue.
Afghanistan has been called "the graveyard of empires". Historically, insurgent groups in Afghanistan have defeated all invaders. The same will happen with the current war - the longest for Australia since Vietnam.
The Taliban is part of the blow back of the Russian war in Afghanistan. Even Hilary Clinton admits it was one of the jihadist groups which, as allies, was “emboldened trained and equipped” and not deemed a security risk to the US or its allies.
Taliban expansion will continue, often with complicity of the people as a result of their increasing disgust with the brutal and corrupt Kabul government, the rising civilian deaths from the US-led forces, particularly though air strikes and their own dispossession and hopelessness.
Al Qaeda’s presence in Afghanistan does not pose as great a threat to the Afghan people as does the suffering caused by the occupiers, or the constant bombings by unmanned predator drones launched from bases in the US.
Al’Qaeda has greatly reduced numbers in Afghanistan. In a June interview on US ABC TV, CIA chief Leon Panetta estimated the number of Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan as “at most … 50-100”.
Insurgent groups continue to form to fight the occupying armies support for the corrupt Hamid Karzai government, lawless warlords and their connection to the venal Pakistani Intelligence Agency. (See the Wikileak Afghanistan War Diaries for more evidence of this.)
The indomitable Revolutionary Association of Women in Afghanistan (RAWA) attribute the current rise in fundamentalism, lawlessness, poverty and rape directly to the occupation. Besieged by extreme weather, in a country whose infrastructure has been smashed by conflict, many Afghan people have few chances of surviving over the age of 43 years.
Apologists for Australian troops remaining in Afghanistan claim they are there to “finish the job”. This, apparently, entails training the Afghan army and police so that it can maintain the corrupt and drug-lord linked government of President Hamid Karzai, which was installed undemocratically by the US and allied invaders. This dubious "job" may never be finished.
The Karzai regime is protected by foreign troops and private mercenaries rather than by the ragged Afghan army or police. These forces are either the private warlord militias (in new uniforms) or people looking for some pay to feed their families. Many desert. Others shoot their “mentors”.
Rosy views of Australia’s involvement as assisting the Afghan people are now being challenged by the September decision to court martial members of Australian Special Operations Task Group for the murder of two adults and four children near the village of Sarmorghab in Oruzgan province in 2009.
Labor and the Coalition insist that Australia's national security is at stake if the troops are withdrawn. But Afghanistan has never threatened Australia.
However, protracted Western wars of aggression, occupation and terror against poor Muslim nations like Afghanistan will continue to provoke the level of resentment that can lead to terrorism by groups and individuals in many countries.
These wars are acts of sustained state terror, which are provoking acts terror of in response. This is why defence commentators admit that the troop surge and endless war of occupation is not only helping to destabilise Afghanistan and Pakistan, it is a threat to global security.
Life for Afghan women, whom supporters of the war claim to want to protect, continues to deteriorate in Taliban and non-Taliban areas. Kazai has made it legal for husbands to rape their wives, and recent reports indicate a rising number of attempts at self-immolation.
A UN report “Trends in Maternal Mortality” indicates that after nearly a decade of donor funded health projects, there has only been a marginal reduction in maternal and child mortality.
Last year, the UN Children’s Fund (UNICEF) ranked Afghanistan the worst of 202 countries in terms of maternal, infant and child mortality.
We must force the Australian government to withdraw the troops. Currently 61% of Australians want the troops brought back. The views of most Australians should not be ignored for the sake of the US-Australia Alliance.
Australia should not walk away from this war ravaged country. The Gillard government should provide funding and assistance to the people of Afghanistan (not the corrupt bureaucrats – Afghan or Western). War reparations would allow the Afghan people to pick up the pieces of their shattered lives.
Australia must also open its doors to those Afghan refugees who want to come here. This is the least this country can do after having helped create mass dislocation and displacement.
Finally, politicians must cease politically manipulating this ongoing tragedy. The debate – which the ALP has been forced to have – must extend well beyond parliament. It will not be a debate if, as PM Julia Gillard wants, it is framed within a call for “support for the troops”.
The purpose of framing the “debate” this way is to use blind and misplaced nationalist sentiment in an effort to silence any argument that exposes the Australian and other foreign military intervention in Afghanistan as the criminal and anti-people war that it really is.
It’s time for the silent majority to make their views known, and force an end to this bipartisan madness in which tens of thousands, if not more, have been killed for no good reason.
For more media comment contact Pip Hinman 0412139968.

From GLW issue 855

What is OSAMA BIN LADEN CIA AGENT 1980 SNOPES?


 
 
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The Bills of St. Mary's
posted 16 August, 2006 07:41 AM
NEW YORK (CNN) -- CNN terrorism analyst Peter Bergen says the notion that Osama bin Laden once worked for the CIA is "simply a folk myth" and that there's no shred of evidence to support such theories.

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Q: If it's true that bin Laden once worked for the CIA, what makes you so sure that he isn't still?
Anne Busigin, Toronto, Canada

BERGEN: This is one of those things where you cannot put it out of its misery.

The story about bin Laden and the CIA -- that the CIA funded bin Laden or trained bin Laden -- is simply a folk myth. There's no evidence of this. In fact, there are very few things that bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri and the U.S. government agree on. They all agree that they didn't have a relationship in the 1980s. And they wouldn't have needed to. Bin Laden had his own money, he was anti-American and he was operating secretly and independently.

The real story here is the CIA didn't really have a clue about who this guy was until 1996 when they set up a unit to really start tracking him.

Hopefully, this will help silence some of the many loonies who still believe this UL.

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Icon 1 posted 16 August, 2006 02:36 PM                      
Hehe of course the CIA would deny it since it reflects badly on them. The thing is the Bin Laden's were major people in the Arab world the Bush family did a lot of business with them and so did numerous goverment agencies including the CIA.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/etc/cron.html shows that he was known prior to 1996. He is thought to have been involved in Somalia for instance in 1993 in an attack in which 18 US troops were killed. 

Sorry but many reports do show that the federal goverment was aware of him and his group.

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 posted 16 August, 2006 03:24 PM                      
TTTC, I don't know why I even bother, but you do know the difference between "AWARENESS OF THE EXISTENCE of a person" and "TANGIBLE FINANCIAL, MATERIAL, AND POLITICAL SUPPORT of said person," right?

*sigh*

Probably not.

Look... I'm AWARE that you exist. Does that automatically mean I'm sending you money and arms and supporting YOUR agenda?

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 posted 16 August, 2006 03:48 PM                      
We supported the Pakinstanis who supported many of the people that went into Bin Laden's camp. We also supported the Bin Laden group in many legal ventures and no doubt many CIA/Defense Department sponsored ventures. We did indeed politically support his group and other such groups when they were fighting against the Soviets. 

Like it or not we did setup a lot of the backlash against us. 

There are quite a few substantial links between the Bush family and the Bin Laden's stretching back quite a while. It even ties into financing of Bin Laden's anti-Soviet group. 
Ever hear of James R. Bath or the Caryle Group?

It's odd but prior to now the CIA did say he was asset. That he was used and supported by them. 

I suggest you consider why the change in tone these past few years regarding Osama.

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 posted 16 August, 2006 05:33 PM                       
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Originally posted by tootiredtocare:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/etc/cron.html shows that he was known prior to 1996. He is thought to have been involved in Somalia for instance in 1993 in an attack in which 18 US troops were killed.

No, that doesn't show that he was known prior to 1996. All it shows is that, in 1998, the US believed that the 1992 bombing in Yemen was bin Laden's first attack and that in 1999 the US believed he was part of the 1993 attacks in Somalia. You're showing post-1996 sources. That doesn't mean they knew or suspected any of this at the time of the attacks, just that by 1998/99 they knew.

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It's odd but prior to now the CIA did say he was asset. That he was used and supported by them. 

I'd like to see you back up that claim.

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 posted 16 August, 2006 05:33 PM                       
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Originally posted by tootiredtocare:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/etc/cron.html shows that he was known prior to 1996. He is thought to have been involved in Somalia for instance in 1993 in an attack in which 18 US troops were killed.

No, that doesn't show that he was known prior to 1996. All it shows is that, in 1998, the US believed that the 1992 bombing in Yemen was bin Laden's first attack and that in 1999 the US believed he was part of the 1993 attacks in Somalia. You're showing post-1996 sources. That doesn't mean they knew or suspected any of this at the time of the attacks, just that by 1998/99 they knew.

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It's odd but prior to now the CIA did say he was asset. That he was used and supported by them. 

I'd like to see you back up that claim.

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 posted 16 August, 2006 10:58 PM                          
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Originally posted by tootiredtocare:
Hehe of course the CIA would deny it since it reflects badly on them.

Apparently, you can't tell the difference between the CIA and CNN. Is this because you're paranoid, or merely because you're a simpleton?

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 posted 16 August, 2006 11:55 PM                       
The CIA supported the Taliban due to insane paranoid anti-communist thinking...

Whether that translate to Bin Laden specifically isn't so clear. But, Bush probably does have ties to the Bin Laden family, but Osama sort of rejected his family in support of his family's enemies long ago.

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 posted 17 August, 2006 12:24 AM                          
Dang, how'd I miss that tttc had a clone?

The Soviet regime in Afghanistan was overthrown in 1992. The Taliban didn't exist as a significant group until 1994.

The other main weakness to the "US supporting Taliban" scenario is that the scenario would ammear much more likely if the US had actually recognized the Taliban instead of militating for the world not to recognize them.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your insane paranoid rant.

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Icon 1 posted 17 August, 2006 09:13 AM                       
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Originally posted by First of Two:
Dang, how'd I miss that tttc had a clone?

The Soviet regime in Afghanistan was overthrown in 1992. The Taliban didn't exist as a significant group until 1994.

The other main weakness to the "US supporting Taliban" scenario is that the scenario would ammear much more likely if the US had actually recognized the Taliban instead of militating for the world not to recognize them.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your insane paranoid rant.

I think the "US funded the Taliban" while incorrect is not totally off the mark.

From my understanding, the CIA was involved (along with other intelligence agencies) in supplying factions within Afghanistan to fight the Soviets. It would not be impossible to think that some of these CIA trained/equipped Afghanis would end up being involved with the Taliban.

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Icon 1 posted 19 August, 2006 12:16 AM                      
Haven't you all learned by now TTTC's tactics? Throw out an absurd arguement with pathetically little source justification... and when called to account on it, rather than respond on that issue, fabricate another one. That way, he maintains the initiative in an arguement, he doesn't have to respond to the attacks on his credability, and it puts everyone else on the defensive.

Well, hogwash, I say.

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I think the "US funded the Taliban" while incorrect is not totally off the mark.

From my understanding, the CIA was involved (along with other intelligence agencies) in supplying factions within Afghanistan to fight the Soviets. It would not be impossible to think that some of these CIA trained/equipped Afghanis would end up being involved with the Taliban.

You are absolutely, 100% correct. Some of the muj we trained in the 1980s now doubt ended up in Taliban camps, as did some of the weapons.

There is a huge gulf, however, between that and saying we sponsored and supported the Taliban, as TTTC asserts.

Now, pardon while I take TTTC's and Ophiucus' arguements apart piece by piece.

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The CIA supported the Taliban due to insane paranoid anti-communist thinking...
Nonsense. As FoT already pointed out, the Soviet Union had withdrawn from Afghanistan long before the concept of the Taliban even existed. The CIA supported the mujahedin in the 1980s; they NEVER supported the Taliban.

There are those who argue that the muj and the Taliban are one and the same; that is a gross mistatement. While there has no doubt been some spillover, as Publius points out in this thread, nothing could be further than the truth. I'll quote him:

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Few Taliban were veterans of the war against the Soviets. Most were simply too young: they were students in the Pakistani madaris when the earliest Taliban cadres recruited them, after all. Even those that were old enough were stuck in a theater of the war that was chronically shortchanged by ISI when it came time to pass out the resources given to Pakistan by the CIA. Almost all of the aid that the Pakistanis did dole out in southern Afghanistan went to longtime Taliban rival Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, until the Pakistanis reversed their position and began sponsoring the Taliban big time in 1994.

By that time, of course, most of the real veterans of the Soviet war were fighting for the warlords in Kabul and the CIA had stopped writing blank checks to Pakistani ISI. The idea that the US put the Taliban in power has more irony to it than truth.

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We supported the Pakinstanis who supported many of the people that went into Bin Laden's camp. We also supported the Bin Laden group in many legal ventures and no doubt many CIA/Defense Department sponsored ventures. We did indeed politically support his group and other such groups when they were fighting against the Soviets.
Yes, we did support the Pakistanis, and several other countries in the region. But their relationship with the Taliban was a non-issue to our support for them. Saying that in supporting Pakistan on and off over the last several decades, we were rendering deliberate and tangible support to the Taliban is absurd and fallacious.

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Like it or not we did setup a lot of the backlash against us. 

I don't disagree with this, but it was far from deliberate or intentional.

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There are quite a few substantial links between the Bush family and the Bin Laden's stretching back quite a while. It even ties into financing of Bin Laden's anti-Soviet group. 
Ever hear of James R. Bath or the Caryle Group?

There are a number of links between the US oil industry and the Bin Laden family... prior to the late 1990s, the Bin Laden name was renowned as one of the most powerful business ventures in the Arabian Peninsula, not as the moniker of a master terrorist. Though I do not dispute the shadiness of the ICCC's (and most of big oil's) financial dealings in the Middle East, there is absolutely ZERO evidence to support or even suggest that any of this translates to direct US Government support of Bin Laden or the Taliban (nor is there any proof that Bath was at all affiliated with the CIA.)

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t's odd but prior to now the CIA did say he was asset. That he was used and supported by them.
To echo Pinqy, I'd like to see some evidence behind that. And just this once, try making sure your cite actually supports your claim.

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Icon 1 posted 21 August, 2006 11:49 PM                      
Oh brother. I can't believe anyone is seriously debating this, based on the very FIRST I've ever seen of the CIA's own less than credible denials.

Next time, try taking a look. The evidence for this isn't exactly suffering from a shortage of sources. Denying this is right up there with claiming WMDs in Iraq were the reason for the war.

Deny, if you can, half a dozen journalists, military experts like Jane's, and a Congressional report. And then ask yourselves, why you were so naive as to take seriously CIA denials?



http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1998/08/acovfri.htm 
USA Today 21 August 1998 
"Ironically, bin-Laden started out on the same side as the United States. In 1979 he supported the Afgan mujadheddin guerrillas in their battle against the occupying Soviet Union.
They were supported by U.S. money, arms and CIA training in the Cold War battle for global influence. Bin Laden learned skills that would help him in the terrorist trade. According to an upcoming Congressional Research Service report, bin Laden gained "prominence during the Afghan war for his role in the recruitment, training and transportation of Arab nationals."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,551971,00.html 
"Delighted by his impeccable Saudi credentials, the CIA gave Osama free rein in Afghanistan, as did Pakistan's intelligence generals.
Bin Laden and a man named Mustafa Chalaby, who ran a jihad refugee centre in Brooklyn [New York, U.S.A.], were both protégés of Abdullah Azzam. A formative influence on bin Laden, the charismatic Azzam was killed in a car-bomb in 1987: according to some rumours he was killed by the CIA. Others claim he was himself a CIA agent.
At the Farm and other secret camps, young Afghans and Arab nationals from countries such as Egypt and Jordan learned strategic sabotage skills. Passed down to the younger jihad generation which filled the ranks of the Bin Laden organisation, these skills would come back to haunt the United States."
http://www.janes.com/regional_news/americas/news/jdw/jdw010914_1_n.shtml 
"Osama bin Laden was one of many US beneficiaries in its war against Moscow. He spent years in the mid-1980s travelling widely to raise funds and recruit thousands of Muslim youths to fight the Soviets.
The rise of Al-Qaeda
In 1988, with US knowledge, Bin Laden created Al Qaeda (The Base): a conglomerate of quasi-independent Islamic terrorist cells in countries spread across at least 26 countries." 

http://www.publicintegrity.org/report.aspx?aid=293 
"Osama Bin Laden: How the U.S. Helped Midwife a Terrorist
By Ahmed Rashid
LAHORE, Pakistan, September 13, 2001 — Ahmed Rashid of Pakistan is a member of the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, a project of the Center for Public Integrity. He is the Pakistan, Afghanistan and Central Asia correspondent for the Far Eastern Economic Review and The Daily Telegraph of London. This is an excerpt from his book "Taliban: Militant Islam, Oil and Fundamentalism in Central Asia" (Yale University Press).

Among these thousands of foreign recruits was a young Saudi student, Osama Bin Laden, the son of a Yemeni construction magnate, Mohammed Bin Laden, who was a close friend of the late King Faisal and whose company had become fabulously wealthy on the contracts to renovate and expand the Holy Mosques of Mecca and Medina. The ISI had long wanted Prince Turki Bin Faisal, the head of Istakhbarat, the Saudi Intelligence Service, to provide a Royal Prince to lead the Saudi contingent in order to show Muslims the commitment of the Royal Family to the jihad. Only poorer Saudis, students, taxi drivers and Bedouin tribesmen had so far arrived to fight. But no pampered Saudi prince was ready to rough it out in the Afghan mountains. Bin Laden, although not a royal, was close enough to the royals and certainly wealthy enough to lead the Saudi contingent. Bin Laden, Prince Turki and [Lieutenant] General [Hameed] Gul [head of the ISI] were to become firm friends and allies in a common cause. The centre for the Arab-Afghans [Filipino Moros, Uzbeks from Soviet Central Asia, Arabs from Algeria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, and Uighurs from Xinjiang in China who had all come to fight with the Mujaheddin] was the offices of the World Muslim League and the Muslim Brotherhood in the northern Pakistan city of Peshawar. The centre was run by Abdullah Azam, a Jordanian Palestinian whom Bin Laden had first met at university in Jeddah and revered as his leader. Azam and his two sons were assassinated by a bomb blast in Peshawar in 1989. 
During the 1980s, Azam had forged close links with Hikmetyar and Abdul Rasul Sayyaf, the Afghan Islamic scholar, whom the Saudis had sent to Peshawar to promote Wahabbism. Saudi funds flowed to Azam and the Makhtab at Khidmat or Services Center, which he created in 1984 to service the new recruits and receive donations from Islamic charities. Donations from Saudi Intelligence, the Saudi Red Crescent, the World Muslim League and private donations from Saudi princes and mosques were channelled through the Makhtab. A decade later, the Makhtab would emerge at the center of a web of radical organizations that helped carry out the World Trade Center bombing and the bombings of US embassies in Africa in 1998.... 
His father backed the Afghan struggle and helped fund it, so when Bin Laden decided to join up, his family responded enthusiastically. He first traveled to Peshawar in 1980 and met the Mujaheddin leaders, returning frequently with Saudi donations for the cause until 1982, when he decided to settle in Peshawar. He brought in his company engineers and heavy construction equipment to help build roads and depots for the Mujaheddin. In 1986, he helped build the Khost tunnel complex, which the CIA was funding as a major arms storage depot, training facility and medical center for the Mujaheddin, deep under the mountains close to the Pakistan border."

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Icon 1 posted 22 August, 2006 06:21 AM                       
quote:
Originally posted by educatedindian:
Oh brother. I can't believe anyone is seriously debating this, based on the very FIRST I've ever seen of the CIA's own less than credible denials.

Next time, try taking a look. The evidence for this isn't exactly suffering from a shortage of sources. Denying this is right up there with claiming WMDs in Iraq were the reason for the war.

Nothing you quoted shows that the CIA trained or funded Osama.

The quotes show the CIA knew of Osama, they show that the CIA did fund/train the same Mujaheddin that Osama funded. Show me where it states that the CIA specifically funded and/or trained Osama.

Also, the USA has never supported the Taliban. As I discussed, it is entirely possible (even probable) that CIA-trained Mujaheddin ended up in the Taliban. This does not mean that there was any endorsement of the Taliban.

ETA:

DR, I agree that there is a massive difference between funding/training the Mujaheddin during the Soviet invasion and supporting the Taliban. My purpose was to clarify for the conspiracy theorists that there was a degree of separation between the concept of "CIA funds Afghanis" and "CIA funds the Taliban".

ETA 2: Besides, I watched all of Rambo III and Rambo never once encountered Osama so I figure the US can't possible have funded the guy 

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Icon 1 posted 22 August, 2006 05:00 PM                      
"Nothing you quoted shows that the CIA trained or funded Osama. The quotes show the CIA knew of Osama, they show that the CIA did fund/train the same Mujaheddin that Osama funded. Show me where it states that the CIA specifically funded and/or trained Osama. Also, the USA has never supported the Taliban."

Salamander needs help with his basic reading skills.

I don't care about the little side issue of the Taliban. In fact I never said a word about it, or quoted anyone saying anything about it.

Reread the quotes. EVERY single article directly states the CIA not only knew about him. Most state they trained him or funded him. Several even state the specific agent who trained him.

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Icon 1 posted 22 August, 2006 07:03 PM                          
quote:
Originally posted by educatedindian:
"Nothing you quoted shows that the CIA trained or funded Osama. The quotes show the CIA knew of Osama, they show that the CIA did fund/train the same Mujaheddin that Osama funded. Show me where it states that the CIA specifically funded and/or trained Osama. Also, the USA has never supported the Taliban."

Salamander needs help with his basic reading skills.

I don't care about the little side issue of the Taliban. In fact I never said a word about it, or quoted anyone saying anything about it.

Reread the quotes. EVERY single article directly states the CIA not only knew about him. Most state they trained him or funded him. Several even state the specific agent who trained him.

what if he does and comes to the same conclusion? If you weren't so condescending, maybe you'd get your opinion across.

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 posted 23 August, 2006 12:53 AM                       
From the CIA itself. (I cannot link directly to the document, nor cut and paste from it as it is a scanned document, but it can be found on the CIA freedom of information act website here, under the title INTERNATIONAL CRIME THREAT ASSESSMENT created 12/1/2000.

From pages 16-17 of the publication (and page 19-20 of the file containing the publication).

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Islamic terrorist groups with vague international agendas have been a growing threat in recent years. These groups are sometimes loosely, sometimes draw their membership from communities in several different countries, and obtain support from an informal international network of like minded extremists rather than state-sponsors of terrorism. Many of these terrorists met while fighting against the Soviets in Afganistan or have since recieved millitary and explosives training there.

* The group led by Razmi Yosef, the convicted mastermind behind the world trade center bombing [ed. note - refers to the 1992 bombing], and the network maintained by Afghan terrorist Usoma Bin Laden are prime examples of this evolution of the international terrorist threat

Though it is no smoking gun that we trained Bin Laden specificly, there is clearly a fair amount of blowback in that many of the mujahadeen that we supported during the Soviet invasion of Afganistan may have sown the seeds of the Taliban who came to power after the colapse of the soviet empire.

Of course, we have supported other tyrants in the past (Saddam comes to mind, but as we all know - there was no connection between Saddam and the Taliban nor bin laden.), so it should come as no suprise that sometimes we do create (or at least feed) monsters who come back to bite us.

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 posted 23 August, 2006 01:17 AM                       
quote:
Originally posted by educatedindian:
"Nothing you quoted shows that the CIA trained or funded Osama. The quotes show the CIA knew of Osama, they show that the CIA did fund/train the same Mujaheddin that Osama funded. Show me where it states that the CIA specifically funded and/or trained Osama. Also, the USA has never supported the Taliban."

Salamander needs help with his basic reading skills.

I don't care about the little side issue of the Taliban. In fact I never said a word about it, or quoted anyone saying anything about it.

Reread the quotes. EVERY single article directly states the CIA not only knew about him. Most state they trained him or funded him. Several even state the specific agent who trained him.

Childishness aside, I worked under the assumption that you quoted the most damning paragraphs from your cites. Therefore I took it that if those quoted passages from your cites did not show a link then neither would the rest of the articles you cited.

Let me repeat myself, nothing that you have quoted in your original post demonstrates a link between Osama & the CIA. The first quote you gave shows that Osama and the CIA supported Afghani mujadheddin. It does not say the CIA supported Osama. It does not say Osama received his training from the CIA.

Your second quote refers to giving Osama "free rein"... which simply means the CIA did not interfere with Osama's actions in any way. Then it goes on to show that Azzam (who was not Osama) was killed and that there was suspicion that he was either killed by the CIA or was CIA himself. Yet, beyond speculation it really doesn't confirm anything in that regard.

The next quote (from Janes) states that Osama bin Laden was "one of many" beneficiaries from the war against Moscow. Note that it doesn't specifically state "funded by CIA" or "trained by CIA"... his benefit may have been from having CIA-trained mujadheddin joining his ranks.

The next one is about Osama forming Al Qaeda -- again, it states the US knew about it. Knowing about it is vastly different from endorsing or funding something.

Of the very lengthy final quote, the only reference to Osama and the CIA is that he helped build the Khost tunnel complex which the CIA was funding. Note that it says Osama's company helped... which to my terribly poor reading skills, suggests that he was not alone in working on building the tunnels.

Again, to my miserable reading comprehension, this means that the CIA was funding whichever companies were working on the complex and one of those happened to be a construction company run by Osama. The complex was built as a centre for the mujaheddin, which Osama never was.

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 posted 23 August, 2006 01:22 AM                          
quote:
Originally posted by educatedindian:
Salamander needs help with his basic reading skills.


I've rarely met a person who is less in need of remedial reading classes than Salamander. He's a darned good writer, too.

quote:

Reread the quotes. EVERY single article directly states the CIA not only knew about him. Most state they trained him or funded him. Several even state the specific agent who trained him.

I thought Osama bin Lader was a multi-millionaire in his own right. Why would he need the CIA to fund him? If I understand affairs correctly, he himself was funding Mujaheddin units.

It is, however, likely that the CIA was cooperating with him, selling weaponry to his units, giving information to his intelligence units, etc.

I see OBL as very similar to Theodore Roosevelt in the Spanish American War: he used his family money to equip a unit which he then led, but his skills were more organizational and financial than military.

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 posted 23 August, 2006 02:20 AM                       


Talk about an "awwww... shucks" moment. If it weren't for the fact that you were complimenting me Silas, I might've felt the need to argue against the "darned good writer" bit 

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 posted 23 August, 2006 09:45 PM                          
Educatedndian's not the only one who beleives the U.S. supported the taliban: Moby also thinks we brought the Taliban,etc. to power and says the CIA set up and funded a training base where Al Quida members train at during the cold war: http://www.moby.com/journal

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 posted 23 August, 2006 11:15 PM                       
I think that part of the larger problem here is that the anti-"anti-American"-ists would like to reduce a fairly complex cloud of foreign policy criticisms to a single straw man: Osama was on payroll from the CIA, here's his W-4.

There are probably people saying that, but there are also people saying that NASA faked the comet Hale-Bopp. This should not be used to distract from a serious criticism, like whether or not NASA is a good use of public funds.

The serious conversation here is whether or not US foreign policy in the Middle East has been an actual expression of our national interests, or whether or not it has been subordinated to short-sighted goals of a certain power elite. And the facts at hand are:

*The US supported the muj against the Soviets in a long and bitter war.
*The immense social and infrastructure costs of the war, and the power vested in fanatic ideologues, helped give rise to the Taliban (domestically) who created a climate hospitable to international terrorism.
*Having met our short-term objectives in Afghanistan in the early 1980s, the US more or less withdrew from active involvement in that country, and thus allowed the Taliban to be created.

The "anti-Americanist" point here is not that we are guilty, or culpable, or evil, or whatever. It is that some of our problems in 2006 could have been reasonably anticipated--and in fact, *were* anticipated--as possible results of our policy back in 1980. We can't fix that, but hopefully we can learn from it.

Unfortunately, I see very little evidence that we are learning from it. Right now, it is considered more or less unpatriotic to suggest that the Iraq War is creating a social trajectory in the region anathema to US interests.

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 posted 23 August, 2006 11:37 PM                       
The Afghanistan war did not start by the Soviet occupation. It was originally an uprising of radical Muslims against the secular government, which was trying to implement such controversial policies as equal opportunities for woman. Unfortunately, it was aligned with the Soviet Union, which send in troops to help prop up the government. USA started to arm and train the mujahadeen for no other reason than to help the USSR’s enemy. During this conflict large number of small children were orphaned and many were sent to schools run by fanatical Muslims which brought them up to be also fanatical Muslims. These children grew up and became Taliban. 

During the war Osama would have been quite a prominent person in Afghanistan. Somehow I cannot imagine Saudi multimillionaire constructing roads and funding all sort of things would not stand out of the crowd. He would have been very well known to the CIA, and if they did not deal with him, I would have to wonder why?

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Icon 1 posted 23 August, 2006 11:57 PM                      
quote:
Originally posted by Seraphina:
During the war Osama would have been quite a prominent person in Afghanistan. Somehow I cannot imagine Saudi multimillionaire constructing roads and funding all sort of things would not stand out of the crowd. He would have been very well known to the CIA, and if they did not deal with him, I would have to wonder why?

During the war Osama was one of many foreigners who were at best considered a nuisance. He used his experience to tell tall tales of his exploits back home and that eventually made him a celebrity there but in Afghanistan he was a real nobody. (It wasn't until much later that he was even known there.) I'd like to know the answer to the opposite question: Why would the CIA deal with a rich brat who went to Afghanistan looking to be a martyr but didn't really do much but get in the way?
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 posted 26 August, 2006 01:39 AM                      
quote:
The Afghanistan war did not start by the Soviet occupation. It was originally an uprising of radical Muslims against the secular government, which was trying to implement such controversial policies as equal opportunities for woman. Unfortunately, it was aligned with the Soviet Union, which send in troops to help prop up the government. USA started to arm and train the mujahadeen for no other reason than to help the USSR’s enemy. During this conflict large number of small children were orphaned and many were sent to schools run by fanatical Muslims which brought them up to be also fanatical Muslims. These children grew up and became Taliban.
Correct. And I don't think anyone can argue that the rise of the Taliban in Afghanistan was an unfortunate, unintended, and unforseen consequence of our actions in Afghanistan in the 1980s, among other contributing factors.

There's still a HUGE (and unreasonable) leap, however, between that fact and the arguement that the US created/supported the Taliban, Bin Laden, etc. And despite all the shady allusions and misleading cites in this thread, I still have yet to see any direct evidence to back up these assertions.

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Was osama bin laden a CIA agent in the 1980

Osama Bin Laden was in charge of the CIA-backed Nicaraguan contras during the early 1980s.
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NEW YORK (CNN) -- CNN terrorism analyst Peter Bergen says the notion that Osama bin Laden once worked for the CIA is "simply a folk myth" and that there's no shred of evidence to support such theories.



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 posted 16 August, 2006 07:41 AM                          

NEW YORK (CNN) -- CNN terrorism analyst Peter Bergen says the notion that Osama bin Laden once worked for the CIA is "simply a folk myth" and that there's no shred of evidence to support such theories.

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Q: If it's true that bin Laden once worked for the CIA, what makes you so sure that he isn't still?
Anne Busigin, Toronto, Canada

BERGEN: This is one of those things where you cannot put it out of its misery.

The story about bin Laden and the CIA -- that the CIA funded bin Laden or trained bin Laden -- is simply a folk myth. There's no evidence of this. In fact, there are very few things that bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri and the U.S. government agree on. They all agree that they didn't have a relationship in the 1980s. And they wouldn't have needed to. Bin Laden had his own money, he was anti-American and he was operating secretly and independently.

The real story here is the CIA didn't really have a clue about who this guy was until 1996 when they set up a unit to really start tracking him.

Hopefully, this will help silence some of the many loonies who still believe this UL.

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posted 16 August, 2006 02:36 PM    

Hehe of course the CIA would deny it since it reflects badly on them. The thing is the Bin Laden's were major people in the Arab world the Bush family did a lot of business

 with them and so did numerous goverment agencies including the CIA.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/etc/cron.html shows that he was known prior to 1996. He is thought to have been involved in Somalia for instance in 1993

 in an attack in which 18 US troops were killed. 

Sorry but many reports do show that the federal goverment was aware of him and his group.

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posted 16 August, 2006 03:24 PM                      

TTTC, I don't know why I even bother, but you do know the difference between "AWARENESS OF THE EXISTENCE of a person" and "TANGIBLE FINANCIAL, MATERIAL, AND POLITICAL SUPPORT of said person," right?

*sigh*

Probably not.

Look... I'm AWARE that you exist. Does that automatically mean I'm sending you money and arms and supporting YOUR agenda?

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posted 16 August, 2006 03:48 PM                      

We supported the Pakinstanis who supported many of the people that went into Bin Laden's camp. We also supported the Bin Laden group in many legal ventures and no doubt many CIA/Defense Department sponsored ventures. We did indeed politically support his group and other such groups when they were fighting against the Soviets. 

Like it or not we did setup a lot of the backlash against us. 

There are quite a few substantial links between the Bush family and the Bin Laden's stretching back quite a while. It even ties into financing of Bin Laden's anti-Soviet group. 
Ever hear of James R. Bath or the Caryle Group?

It's odd but prior to now the CIA did say he was asset. That he was used and supported by them. 

I suggest you consider why the change in tone these past few years regarding Osama.

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posted 16 August, 2006 05:33 PM                       

quote:

Originally posted by tootiredtocare:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/etc/cron.html shows that he was known prior to 1996. He is thought to have been involved in Somalia for instance in 1993 in an attack in which 18 US troops were killed.

No, that doesn't show that he was known prior to 1996. All it shows is that, in 1998, the US believed that the 1992 bombing in Yemen was bin Laden's first attack and that in 1999 the US believed he was part of the 1993 attacks in Somalia. You're showing post-1996 sources. That doesn't mean they knew or suspected any of this at the time of the attacks, just that by 1998/99 they knew.

quote:

It's odd but prior to now the CIA did say he was asset. That he was used and supported by them. 

I'd like to see you back up that claim.

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posted 16 August, 2006 10:58 PM                          

 

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Originally posted by tootiredtocare:
Hehe of course the CIA would deny it since it reflects badly on them.

 

Apparently, you can't tell the difference between the CIA and CNN. Is this because you're paranoid, or merely because you're a simpleton?

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posted 16 August, 2006 11:55 PM                       

 

The CIA supported the Taliban due to insane paranoid anti-communist thinking...

Whether that translate to Bin Laden specifically isn't so clear. But, Bush probably does have ties to the Bin Laden family, but Osama sort of rejected his family in support of his family's enemies long ago.

 

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posted 17 August, 2006 12:24 AM                          

 

Dang, how'd I miss that tttc had a clone?

The Soviet regime in Afghanistan was overthrown in 1992. The Taliban didn't exist as a significant group until 1994.

The other main weakness to the "US supporting Taliban" scenario is that the scenario would ammear much more likely if the US had actually recognized the Taliban instead of militating for the world not to recognize them.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your insane paranoid rant.

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posted 17 August, 2006 09:13 AM                       

 

quote:

 

Originally posted by First of Two:
Dang, how'd I miss that tttc had a clone?

The Soviet regime in Afghanistan was overthrown in 1992. The Taliban didn't exist as a significant group until 1994.

The other main weakness to the "US supporting Taliban" scenario is that the scenario would ammear much more likely if the US had actually recognized the Taliban instead of militating for the world not to recognize them.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your insane paranoid rant.

 

I think the "US funded the Taliban" while incorrect is not totally off the mark.

From my understanding, the CIA was involved (along with other intelligence agencies) in supplying factions within Afghanistan to fight the Soviets. It would not be impossible to think that some of these CIA trained/equipped Afghanis would end up being involved with the Taliban.

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posted 19 August, 2006 12:16 AM                      

 

Haven't you all learned by now TTTC's tactics? Throw out an absurd arguement with pathetically little source justification... and when called to account on it, rather than respond on that issue, fabricate another one. That way, he maintains the initiative in an arguement, he doesn't have to respond to the attacks on his credability, and it puts everyone else on the defensive.

Well, hogwash, I say.

quote:

 

I think the "US funded the Taliban" while incorrect is not totally off the mark.

From my understanding, the CIA was involved (along with other intelligence agencies) in supplying factions within Afghanistan to fight the Soviets. It would not be impossible to think that some of these CIA trained/equipped Afghanis would end up being involved with the Taliban.

 

You are absolutely, 100% correct. Some of the muj we trained in the 1980s now doubt ended up in Taliban camps, as did some of the weapons.

There is a huge gulf, however, between that and saying we sponsored and supported the Taliban, as TTTC asserts.

Now, pardon while I take TTTC's and Ophiucus' arguements apart piece by piece.

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The CIA supported the Taliban due to insane paranoid anti-communist thinking...

 

Nonsense. As FoT already pointed out, the Soviet Union had withdrawn from Afghanistan long before the concept of the Taliban even existed. The CIA supported the mujahedin in the 1980s; they NEVER supported the Taliban.

There are those who argue that the muj and the Taliban are one and the same; that is a gross mistatement. While there has no doubt been some spillover, as Publius points out in this thread, nothing could be further than the truth. I'll quote him:

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Few Taliban were veterans of the war against the Soviets. Most were simply too young: they were students in the Pakistani madaris when the earliest Taliban cadres recruited them, after all. Even those that were old enough were stuck in a theater of the war that was chronically shortchanged by ISI when it came time to pass out the resources given to Pakistan by the CIA. Almost all of the aid that the Pakistanis did dole out in southern Afghanistan went to longtime Taliban rival Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, until the Pakistanis reversed their position and began sponsoring the Taliban big time in 1994.

By that time, of course, most of the real veterans of the Soviet war were fighting for the warlords in Kabul and the CIA had stopped writing blank checks to Pakistani ISI. The idea that the US put the Taliban in power has more irony to it than truth.

 

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We supported the Pakinstanis who supported many of the people that went into Bin Laden's camp. We also supported the Bin Laden group in many legal ventures and no doubt many CIA/Defense Department sponsored ventures. We did indeed politically support his group and other such groups when they were fighting against the Soviets.

 

Yes, we did support the Pakistanis, and several other countries in the region. But their relationship with the Taliban was a non-issue to our support for them. Saying that in supporting Pakistan on and off over the last several decades, we were rendering deliberate and tangible support to the Taliban is absurd and fallacious.

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Like it or not we did setup a lot of the backlash against us. 

 

I don't disagree with this, but it was far from deliberate or intentional.

quote:

 

There are quite a few substantial links between the Bush family and the Bin Laden's stretching back quite a while. It even ties into financing of Bin Laden's anti-Soviet group. 
Ever hear of James R. Bath or the Caryle Group?

 

There are a number of links between the US oil industry and the Bin Laden family... prior to the late 1990s, the Bin Laden name was renowned as one of the most powerful business ventures in the Arabian Peninsula, not as the moniker of a master terrorist. Though I do not dispute the shadiness of the ICCC's (and most of big oil's) financial dealings in the Middle East, there is absolutely ZERO evidence to support or even suggest that any of this translates to direct US Government support of Bin Laden or the Taliban (nor is there any proof that Bath was at all affiliated with the CIA.)

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t's odd but prior to now the CIA did say he was asset. That he was used and supported by them.

 

To echo Pinqy, I'd like to see some evidence behind that. And just this once, try making sure your cite actually supports your claim.

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posted 21 August, 2006 11:49 PM    

Oh brother. I can't believe anyone is seriously debating this, based on the very FIRST I've ever seen of the CIA's own less than credible denials.

Next time, try taking a look. The evidence for this isn't exactly suffering from a shortage of sources. Denying this is right up there with claiming WMDs in Iraq were the reason for the war.

Deny, if you can, half a dozen journalists, military experts like Jane's, and a Congressional report. And then ask yourselves, why you were so naive as to take seriously CIA denials?

http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1998/08/acovfri.htm 
USA Today 21 August 1998 
"Ironically, bin-Laden started out on the same side as the United States. In 1979 he supported the Afgan mujadheddin guerrillas in their battle against the occupying Soviet Union.
They were supported by U.S. money, arms and CIA training in the Cold War battle for global influence. Bin Laden learned skills that would help him in the terrorist trade. According to an upcoming Congressional Research Service report, bin Laden gained "prominence during the Afghan war for his role in the recruitment, training and transportation of Arab nationals."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,551971,00.html 
"Delighted by his impeccable Saudi credentials, the CIA gave Osama free rein in Afghanistan, as did Pakistan's intelligence generals.
Bin Laden and a man named Mustafa Chalaby, who ran a jihad refugee centre in Brooklyn [New York, U.S.A.], were both protégés of Abdullah Azzam. A formative influence on bin Laden, the charismatic Azzam was killed in a car-bomb in 1987: according to some rumours he was killed by the CIA. Others claim he was himself a CIA agent.
At the Farm and other secret camps, young Afghans and Arab nationals from countries such as Egypt and Jordan learned strategic sabotage skills. Passed down to the younger jihad generation which filled the ranks of the Bin Laden organisation, these skills would come back to haunt the United States."
http://www.janes.com/regional_news/americas/news/jdw/jdw010914_1_n.shtml 
"Osama bin Laden was one of many US beneficiaries in its war against Moscow. He spent years in the mid-1980s travelling widely to raise funds and recruit thousands of Muslim youths to fight the Soviets.
The rise of Al-Qaeda
In 1988, with US knowledge, Bin Laden created Al Qaeda (The Base): a conglomerate of quasi-independent Islamic terrorist cells in countries spread across at least 26 countries." 

http://www.publicintegrity.org/report.aspx?aid=293 
"Osama Bin Laden: How the U.S. Helped Midwife a Terrorist
By Ahmed Rashid
LAHORE, Pakistan, September 13, 2001 — Ahmed Rashid of Pakistan is a member of the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, a project of the Center for Public Integrity. He is the Pakistan, Afghanistan and Central Asia correspondent for the Far Eastern Economic Review and The Daily Telegraph of London. This is an excerpt from his book "Taliban: Militant Islam, Oil and Fundamentalism in Central Asia" (Yale University Press).

Among these thousands of foreign recruits was a young Saudi student, Osama Bin Laden, the son of a Yemeni construction magnate, Mohammed Bin Laden, who was a close friend of the late King Faisal and whose company had become fabulously wealthy on the contracts to renovate and expand the Holy Mosques of Mecca and Medina. The ISI had long wanted Prince Turki Bin Faisal, the head of Istakhbarat, the Saudi Intelligence Service, to provide a Royal Prince to lead the Saudi contingent in order to show Muslims the commitment of the Royal Family to the jihad. Only poorer Saudis, students, taxi drivers and Bedouin tribesmen had so far arrived to fight. But no pampered Saudi prince was ready to rough it out in the Afghan mountains. Bin Laden, although not a royal, was close enough to the royals and certainly wealthy enough to lead the Saudi contingent. Bin Laden, Prince Turki and [Lieutenant] General [Hameed] Gul [head of the ISI] were to become firm friends and allies in a common cause. The centre for the Arab-Afghans [Filipino Moros, Uzbeks from Soviet Central Asia, Arabs from Algeria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, and Uighurs from Xinjiang in China who had all come to fight with the Mujaheddin] was the offices of the World Muslim League and the Muslim Brotherhood in the northern Pakistan city of Peshawar. The centre was run by Abdullah Azam, a Jordanian Palestinian whom Bin Laden had first met at university in Jeddah and revered as his leader. Azam and his two sons were assassinated by a bomb blast in Peshawar in 1989. 
During the 1980s, Azam had forged close links with Hikmetyar and Abdul Rasul Sayyaf, the Afghan Islamic scholar, whom the Saudis had sent to Peshawar to promote Wahabbism. Saudi funds flowed to Azam and the Makhtab at Khidmat or Services Center, which he created in 1984 to service the new recruits and receive donations from Islamic charities. Donations from Saudi Intelligence, the Saudi Red Crescent, the World Muslim League and private donations from Saudi princes and mosques were channelled through the Makhtab. A decade later, the Makhtab would emerge at the center of a web of radical organizations that helped carry out the World Trade Center bombing and the bombings of US embassies in Africa in 1998.... 
His father backed the Afghan struggle and helped fund it, so when Bin Laden decided to join up, his family responded enthusiastically. He first traveled to Peshawar in 1980 and met the Mujaheddin leaders, returning frequently with Saudi donations for the cause until 1982, when he decided to settle in Peshawar. He brought in his company engineers and heavy construction equipment to help build roads and depots for the Mujaheddin. In 1986, he helped build the Khost tunnel complex, which the CIA was funding as a major arms storage depot, training facility and medical center for the Mujaheddin, deep under the mountains close to the Pakistan border.

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posted 22 August, 2006 06:21 AM 

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Originally posted by educatedindian:
Oh brother. I can't believe anyone is seriously debating this, based on the very FIRST I've ever seen of the CIA's own less than credible denials.

Next time, try taking a look. The evidence for this isn't exactly suffering from a shortage of sources. Denying this is right up there with claiming WMDs in Iraq were the reason for the war.

Nothing you quoted shows that the CIA trained or funded Osama.

The quotes show the CIA knew of Osama, they show that the CIA did fund/train the same Mujaheddin that Osama funded. Show me where it states that the CIA specifically funded and/or trained Osama.

Also, the USA has never supported the Taliban. As I discussed, it is entirely possible (even probable) that CIA-trained Mujaheddin ended up in the Taliban. This does not mean that there was any endorsement of the Taliban.

ETA:

DR, I agree that there is a massive difference between funding/training the Mujaheddin during the Soviet invasion and supporting the Taliban. My purpose was to clarify for the conspiracy theorists that there was a degree of separation between the concept of "CIA funds Afghanis" and "CIA funds the Taliban".

ETA 2: Besides, I watched all of Rambo III and Rambo never once encountered Osama so I figure the US can't possible have funded the guy 

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posted 22 August, 2006 05:00 PM 

"Nothing you quoted shows that the CIA trained or funded Osama. The quotes show the CIA knew of Osama, they show that the CIA did fund/train the same Mujaheddin that Osama funded. Show me where it states that the CIA specifically funded and/or trained Osama. Also, the USA has never supported the Taliban."

Salamander needs help with his basic reading skills.

I don't care about the little side issue of the Taliban. In fact I never said a word about it, or quoted anyone saying anything about it.

Reread the quotes. EVERY single article directly states the CIA not only knew about him. Most state they trained him or funded him. Several even state the specific agent who trained him.

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posted 22 August, 2006 07:03 PM  

quote:

 

Originally posted by educatedindian:
"Nothing you quoted shows that the CIA trained or funded Osama. The quotes show the CIA knew of Osama, they show that the CIA did fund/train the same Mujaheddin that Osama funded. Show me where it states that the CIA specifically funded and/or trained Osama. Also, the USA has never supported the Taliban."

Salamander needs help with his basic reading skills.

I don't care about the little side issue of the Taliban. In fact I never said a word about it, or quoted anyone saying anything about it.

Reread the quotes. EVERY single article directly states the CIA not only knew about him. Most state they trained him or funded him. Several even state the specific agent who trained him.

what if he does and comes to the same conclusion? If you weren't so condescending, maybe you'd get your opinion across.

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what if he does and comes to the same conclusion? If you weren't so condescending, maybe you'd get your opinion across.

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posted 23 August, 2006 12:53 AM

             

 

From the CIA itself. (I cannot link directly to the document, nor cut and paste from it as it is a scanned document, but it can be found on the CIA freedom of information act website here, under the title INTERNATIONAL CRIME THREAT ASSESSMENT created 12/1/2000.

From pages 16-17 of the publication (and page 19-20 of the file containing the publication).

quote:

 

Islamic terrorist groups with vague international agendas have been a growing threat in recent years. These groups are sometimes loosely, sometimes draw their membership from communities in several different countries, and obtain support from an informal international network of like minded extremists rather than state-sponsors of terrorism. Many of these terrorists met while fighting against the Soviets in Afganistan or have since recieved millitary and explosives training there.

* The group led by Razmi Yosef, the convicted mastermind behind the world trade center bombing [ed. note - refers to the 1992 bombing], and the network maintained by Afghan terrorist Usoma Bin Laden are prime examples of this evolution of the international terrorist threat.


* The group led by Razmi Yosef, the convicted mastermind behind the world trade center bombing [ed. note - refers to the 1992 bombing], and the network maintained by Afghan terrorist Usoma Bin Laden are prime examples of this evolution of the international terrorist threat

 

Though it is no smoking gun that we trained Bin Laden specificly, there is clearly a fair amount of blow back in that many of the mujahadeen that we supported during the Soviet invasion of Afganistan may have sown the seeds of the Taliban who came to power after the collapse of the soviet empire.

Of course, we have supported other tyrants in the past (Saddam comes to mind, but as we all know - there was no connection between Saddam and the Taliban nor bin laden.), so it should come as no surprise that sometimes we do create (or at least feed) monsters who come back to bite us.

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posted 23 August, 2006 01:17 AM

Originally posted by educatedindian:
"Nothing you quoted shows that the CIA trained or funded Osama. The quotes show the CIA knew of Osama, they show that the CIA did fund/train the same Mujaheddin that Osama funded. Show me where it states that the CIA specifically funded and/or trained Osama. Also, the USA has never supported the Taliban."

Salamander needs help with his basic reading skills.

I don't care about the little side issue of the Taliban. In fact I never said a word about it, or quoted anyone saying anything about it.

Reread the quotes. EVERY single article directly states the CIA not only knew about him. Most state they trained him or funded him. Several even state the specific agent who trained him.

 

Childishness aside, I worked under the assumption that you quoted the most damning paragraphs from your cites. Therefore I took it that if those quoted passages from your cites did not show a link then neither would the rest of the articles you cited.

Let me repeat myself, nothing that you have quoted in your original post demonstrates a link between Osama & the CIA. The first quote you gave shows that Osama and the CIA supported Afghani mujadheddin. It does not say the CIA supported Osama. It does not say Osama received his training from the CIA.

Your second quote refers to giving Osama "free rein"... which simply means the CIA did not interfere with Osama's actions in any way. Then it goes on to show that Azzam (who was not Osama) was killed and that there was suspicion that he was either killed by the CIA or was CIA himself. Yet, beyond speculation it really doesn't confirm anything in that regard.

The next quote (from Janes) states that Osama bin Laden was "one of many" beneficiaries from the war against Moscow. Note that it doesn't specifically state "funded by CIA" or "trained by CIA"... his benefit may have been from having CIA-trained mujadheddin joining his ranks.

The next one is about Osama forming Al Qaeda -- again, it states the US knew about it. Knowing about it is vastly different from endorsing or funding something.

Of the very lengthy final quote, the only reference to Osama and the CIA is that he helped build the Khost tunnel complex which the CIA was funding. Note that it says Osama's company helped... which to my terribly poor reading skills, suggests that he was not alone in working on building the tunnels.

Again, to my miserable reading comprehension, this means that the CIA was funding whichever companies were working on the complex and one of those happened to be a construction company run by Osama. The complex was built as a centre for the mujaheddin, which Osama never was.

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posted 23 August, 2006 09:45 PM

Educatedndian's not the only one who beleives the U.S. supported the taliban: Moby also thinks we brought the Taliban,etc. to power and says the CIA set up and funded a training base where Al Quida members train at during the cold war: http://www.moby.com/journal

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posted 23 August, 2006 11:15 PM  

I think that part of the larger problem here is that the anti-"anti-American"-ists would like to reduce a fairly complex cloud of foreign policy criticisms to a single straw man: Osama was on payroll from the CIA, here's his W-4.

There are probably people saying that, but there are also people saying that NASA faked the comet Hale-Bopp. This should not be used to distract from a serious criticism, like whether or not NASA is a good use of public funds.

The serious conversation here is whether or not US foreign policy in the Middle East has been an actual expression of our national interests, or whether or not it has been subordinated to short-sighted goals of a certain power elite. And the facts at hand are:

*The US supported the muj against the Soviets in a long and bitter war.
*The immense social and infrastructure costs of the war, and the power vested in fanatic ideologues, helped give rise to the Taliban (domestically) who created a climate hospitable to international terrorism.
*Having met our short-term objectives in Afghanistan in the early 1980s, the US more or less withdrew from active involvement in that country, and thus allowed the Taliban to be created.

The "anti-Americanist" point here is not that we are guilty, or culpable, or evil, or whatever. It is that some of our problems in 2006 could have been reasonably anticipated--and in fact, *were* anticipated--as possible results of our policy back in 1980. We can't fix that, but hopefully we can learn from it.

Unfortunately, I see very little evidence that we are learning from it. Right now, it is considered more or less unpatriotic to suggest that the Iraq War is creating a social trajectory in the region anathema to US interests.

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posted 23 August, 2006 11:37 PM

The Afghanistan war did not start by the Soviet occupation. It was originally an uprising of radical Muslims against the secular government, which was trying to implement such controversial policies as equal opportunities for woman. Unfortunately, it was aligned with the Soviet Union, which send in troops to help prop up the government. USA started to arm and train the mujahadeen for no other reason than to help the USSR’s enemy. During this conflict large number of small children were orphaned and many were sent to schools run by fanatical Muslims which brought them up to be also fanatical Muslims. These children grew up and became Taliban. 

During the war Osama would have been quite a prominent person in Afghanistan. Somehow I cannot imagine Saudi multimillionaire constructing roads and funding all sort of things would not stand out of the crowd. He would have been very well known to the CIA, and if they did not deal with him, I would have to wonder why?

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posted 23 August, 2006 11:57 PM   

quote:

 

Originally posted by Seraphina:
During the war Osama would have been quite a prominent person in Afghanistan. Somehow I cannot imagine Saudi multimillionaire constructing roads and funding all sort of things would not stand out of the crowd. He would have been very well known to the CIA, and if they did not deal with him, I would have to wonder why?

During the war Osama was one of many foreigners who were at best considered a nuisance. He used his experience to tell tall tales of his exploits back home and that eventually made him a celebrity there but in Afghanistan he was a real nobody. (It wasn't until much later that he was even known there.) I'd like to know the answer to the opposite question: Why would the CIA deal with a rich brat who went to Afghanistan looking to be a martyr but didn't really do much but get in the way?

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posted 26 August, 2006 01:39 AM  

quote:

 

The Afghanistan war did not start by the Soviet occupation. It was originally an uprising of radical Muslims against the secular government, which was trying to implement such controversial policies as equal opportunities for woman. Unfortunately, it was aligned with the Soviet Union, which send in troops to help prop up the government. USA started to arm and train the mujahadeen for no other reason than to help the USSR’s enemy. During this conflict large number of small children were orphaned and many were sent to schools run by fanatical Muslims which brought them up to be also fanatical Muslims. These children grew up and became Taliban.

 

Correct. And I don't think anyone can argue that the rise of the Taliban in Afghanistan was an unfortunate, unintended, and unforseen consequence of our actions in Afghanistan in the 1980s, among other contributing factors.

There's still a HUGE (and unreasonable) leap, however, between that fact and the arguement that the US created/supported the Taliban, Bin Laden, etc. And despite all the shady allusions and misleading cites in this thread, I still have yet to see any direct evidence to back up these assertions.

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    Sunday, June 02, 2013

    WOOLWICH: ADEBOLAJO WAS PAID BY MI6



    Jeremiah, younger brother of the Woolwich 'terrorist' Michael Adebolajo. 

    The Daily Mail has discovered that:

    Michael Adebolajo's younger brother Jeremiah 'was paid thousands by MI6 to spy in the Middle East'

    Jeremiah Adebolajo, 26, teaches at a university in Saudi Arabia.

    Reportedly, MI6 recruited him as a spy.

    He was flown business class to five-star hotels and handed cash.

    http://www.dailymail.

    The source for the Mail is the Adebolajo family and a well-placed person who contacted The Mail on Sunday.

    Jeremiah Adebolajo returned to Britain 'this week'.

    Jeremiah's sister, Blessing Adebolajo, 32, says Jeremiah was approached by MI6 while he was working at the University of Ha’il.


    University of Ha'il

    A friend of Jeremiah said: "They told Jeremiah to go to certain hotels, order a cup of tea and wait for his contact.

    "On these occasions he was handed £300, and was paid to fly first-class and stay in five-star hotels."

    Blessing says MI6 bought a ticket so Jeremiah could fly to an Intercontinental hotel in another Middle East country (believed to be the United Arab Emirates) and that he was given local currency worth more than £1,000.


    Blessing Adebolajo getting into an unmarked police car.

    The Woolwich 'terrorist' Michael Adebolajo is thought to have been working for MI5-MI6 for many years.

    When the police in Kenya arrested Michael in 2010, MI5-MI6 are said to have organised his release.


    Kirk Redpath, friend of Michael Adebolajo

    The Woolwich terror suspect Michael Adebolajo was best friends with Lance Corporal Kirk Redpath  who was killed by a roadside bomb in Iraq in 2007.

    Michael was consoled by friends at the funeral of Lance Corporal Kirk Redpath.

    Woolwich suspect Michael Adebolajo was best friends with a soldier blown up in Basra

    Michael may have joined MI5 in 2007. In 2010 he was apparently in Kenya working for MI5.


    Michael Adebolajo may have joined MI5 because of what Moslems were doing to his fellow Christians in Nigeria.

    Michael grew up in a well-to-to Christian family.

    He lived near Kirk Redpath in Romford.

    They were classmates at Marshalls Park School.

    They spent time at each other's houses after school.

    Kirk’s brother Grant has said that Michael was "the most laid-back, nicest guy in the world.

    Justine Rigden, a hairdresser, dated Michael.

    She has said: "He was really friendly and really polite.... He used to do a bit of MC-ing, rapping....He was just this normal regular boy."

    Michael grew up in a Christian home with his three siblings and parents Tina, a social worker, and Anthony, a nurse. 


    A church attacked in Nigeria. Michael may have joined MI5 to help counter Islamic extremism.

    Michael is from an academic family in West Africa, where Christians are highly unlikely to convert to Islam, unless as a pretence.

    Michael attended university and may have been recruited there by MI5.

    MI5 may have asked Michael to infiltrate Moslem groups.

    100 Moslems killed in a Nigeria mosque attack. 

    Many thanks to Carol A. Valentine for the link.



    Michael Adebolajo released from Kenya, with the help of MI5?

    Michael Adebolajo, one of the alleged 'Woolwich terrorists', is reported to have become a father just days before the Woolwich attack.

    In 2010, Michael Adebolajo may have been sent by the UK security services to work for al Qaeda in Somalia.

    (Al Qaeda is now being used to try to topple President Assad of Syria)

    Reportedly, Michael Adebolajo was among a group arrested in Kenya en route to Somalia in 2010.

    Michael Adebolajo was arrested in Kenya under suspicion of being at the centre of a CIA-al-Qaeda-inspired plot in 2010.

    MI5 'tried to recruit' Woolwich attack suspect Michael Adebolajo

    He was one of seven people, which included two secondary-school boys, arrested by Kenyan police in November 2010.





    7/7 London Bombs mastermind Aswat (right) reportedly worked for MI6. London Bombs - unanswered questions

    The Kenyan press reported that Michael Adebolajo was "suspected of masterminding the racket".

    Michael Adebolajo appears to have had the backing of the UK government because he was deported back to Britain without charge.

    After returning from Kenya, members of his family said he was constantly in contact with MI5 agents.

    MI5 'tried to recruit' Woolwich attack suspect Michael Adebolajo

    Adel Abdul Majid was implicated in the 1981 assassination of Egyptian President Anwar Sadat (above). In 1991, he fled to Britain and immediately was granted political asylum. Terrorists working for MI6

    BBC Newsnight may have been used to create disinformation on the MI5 connection.

    'A friend of Michael Adebolajo' told the BBC that MI5 had attempted to recruit Michael Adebolajo six months ago.

    It is more likely that Michael Adebolajo had been an asset of MI5 for many years.

    When Michael Adebolajo was arrested in kenya, his family had been told by the Kenyan authorities that he would be hanged or beheaded.

    But he was freed to return to Britain.

    "The decision has raised questions over official involvement in Mr Adebolajo's release – and the true extent of his connections with the intelligence services since he returned home to the UK."

    MI5 'tried to recruit' Woolwich attack suspect Michael Adebolajo

    Yasmin, the pole dancer, and daughter of Omar Bakri Mohammed.

    The Woolwich 'terrorist' Michael Adebolajo was taught about Islamic militancy by the preacher Omar Bakri Mohammed.

    Woolwich Attack and the Changing Nature of Terrorism | Chatham House.


    Bakri

    Omar Bakri Mohammed's busty blonde daughter, Yasmin, is a topless pole-dancer.

    Yasmin, a single mother, performs in London clubs.


    A pole dancer. Starrgrrrl

    She told The Sun: I'm willing to go topless if the venue is right.'

    Reportedly, 'she has been leading a wild double life thrashing about on stage in pole dancing clubs and drinking and partying like there's no tomorrow.'

    Reportedly, Bakri Mohammed personally paid for Yasmin to have a breast enlargement operation.

    According to The Sun, he paid £4,000 in cash 'for the operation that launched her career as a pole dancer'.

    Revealed: Radical cleric Bakri's pole-dancer daughter


    Bakri, who is believed to work for MI6 and MI5.

    Bakri was born in Syria, where he became involved in the Muslim Brotherhood, which reportedly is run by MI6.

    At one time Bakri was friends with London-based Sheikh Abu Hamza al-Masri, a former nightclub bouncer.

    Bakri Mohammed helped develop the 'Al Muhajiroun' organisation in the UK said to be run by the spooks. 


    The Woolwich 'terrorist' Michael Adebolajo joined Al-Muhajiroun in 2003.

    Former Justice Dept. prosecutor and Terror expert John Loftus revealed that the so called Al-Muhajiroun group were recruited by MI6 to fight in Kosovo.

    Loftus stated that "back in the late 1990s, the leaders all worked for British intelligence in Kosovo. 

    "Believe it or not, British intelligence actually hired some Al-Qaeda guys to help defend the Muslim rights in Albania and in Kosovo."

    DANGEROUS IMMIGRANTS; DANGEROUS MOSLEMS?

    The girlfriend of the Woolwich 'terrorist' Michael Adebolajo

     From 1986 to 1996, Omar Bakri Muhammad ran  Hizb ut Tahrir

    An article entitled Hizb ut Tahrir and the MI6 connection tells us:

    Hizb ut Tahrir (HuT) has close ties to MI6, according to certain analysts.

    Experts believe that HuT is used by MI6 as part of the Anglo-American strategy to contain the influence of the Russians and Chinese in the Central Asian Republics.

    HuT is reportedly linked to the Muslim Brotherhood which has long been a front for the CIA and MI6.

    The Muslim Brotherhood has been used by MI6 and CIA to weaken independent governments in the Middle East.

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