UK LINK IN Western Australian SERIAL MURDERS?
http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/garyhughes/index.php/theaustralian/comments/uk_link_in_wa_serial_murders/
One of Australia’s longest-running serial murder investigations, the Claremont killings in Perth, has taken a new twist with the emergence of a suspect in Britain. The 35-year-old British man, who has been charged with the brutal murder of an 18-year-old girl, lived in WA at the time of the three unsolved Claremont murders. And there are intriguing similarities between the Perth murders and the killing in Britain. Perth police have asked for DNA records of the British suspect and are reportedly preparing to fly to London to question him. But if he does turn out to be the elusive Claremont serial killer, it will raise serious questions about how he was able to slip through the net, given he had been arrested for a sex offence in Perth about six years ago and deported.
Mark Dixie, a pub chef, was arrested in June and charged with the murder of 18-year-old model Sally Anne Bowman in the south London suburb of Croydon in 2005. He had been caught after providing a DNA sample to police following a pub punch-up earlier this year. The DNA sample tied him to the Bowman murder and an incident in south London in 2001, when he allegedly masturbated in front of a woman making a call from a public phone box.
The possible link between Dixie and the Claremont murders was revealed by a south London newspaper last week.
Sally Anne Bowman fits the profile of the three young women killed in Perth. All were attractive young blondes. And all were killed on their way home after being out at nightspots with friends.
Sally Anne was knifed to death, then sexually assaulted not far from her home. Bite marks were found on her body. Only two of the bodies of the Claremont murderer have been found. Police have always refused to reveal details of the cause of death or the injuries they suffered. Sarah Spiers, 18, disappeared in January 1996 and her body has never been found. Jane Rimmer, 23, was murdered in August 1996 and Ciara Glennon, 27, was killed in March 1997. Perth police have also always refused to say whether DNA of their killer was recovered from the bodies, although this seems likely because DNA testing has since been used to eliminate a number of suspects. It would also explain why Dixie’s DNA samples are being sent to Perth for testing.
According to the Perth Sunday Times, Dixie used the alias Shane Turner while working as a chef in Perth and other areas of WA in the 1990s. He became an illegal immigrant when he overstayed his visa and was eventually caught when he exposed himself to a woman in a telephone box about six years ago — the same type of crime he allegedly committed in London in 2001. He was deported back to the UK about six years ago.
WA police will only say that their contact with London police over Dixie was “standard practice of looking at perpetrators of major crimes and their possible links to offences that occurred in WA during their time hereâ€. London police are believed to have already interviewed former friends of Dixie’s in WA.
If Dixie proves to be the Claremont serial killer, it will solve one of the intriguing aspects of the case — why the string of abductions and murders suddenly stopped. Most serial killers keep offending until they are caught.
Perth police had all but given up on ever catching the Claremont killer. In November 2004 a special panel comprising two Australian, two British and one US criminal experts was assembled to review all the evidence gathered to date in the investigation. In September last year the Macro taskforce which had been working on the killings was scaled back and the investigation handed to a new cold case unit.
Your Comments
David Daniel Ball
Mon 02 Oct 06 (02:14am)
I think this illustrates that cooperation between law enforcement of different nations .. and press, works. Still, I wonder how many more crimes might be solved through sharing databases of criminal DNA.
Jacqui_R
Mon 02 Oct 06 (09:12am)
I’m wondering how on earth some of these people get jobs? A tax file number is required if you’re to get work, also, I would have thought this guy was bound to have some sort of criminal record, if so, how did he manage to enter the country in the first place? you’d think some sort of flag would be raised?.
Jacqui_R
Mon 02 Oct 06 (10:59am)
Which still leaves the question of how he got in, in the first place, I would have thought this guy would have some sort of prior history, I know that in the case of Americans that have committed a felony, it shows on their passports, therefore they can be denied an entry visa, if this doesn’t apply to other countries it should, the last thing we need is criminals from other countries coming in and committing crimes here. Co-operation between law agencies of various countries is all well and good, but we need it to happen before the fact, not after a crime has been committed.
animal
Mon 02 Oct 06 (11:25am)
It would be interesting to know if there were bite marks found on the bodies of the 2 victims here. These 2 bodies were also found at opposite ends of the Perth metro area, not too far from the main freeway that runs through Perth. Therefore it makes sense that if the suspect was a tourist then he dumped the bodies close to a main road and where the residential area was getting sparser. I really hope the DNA does match as this has been 10 years since the killings and the investigation has gone nowhere. There has been a suspect watched intensely for at least the last 5 years (detectives watching his house 24/7 early on) and this was mainly on the basis that he was a loner who used to drive around the city at all hours and saw one of the victims on the night she disappeared. He also lived in the suburb next to Claremont. The intense scrutiny and focus on this individual has cost thousands of dollars and it will make the WA Police look real bad. Especially considering the head of the Macro task force was recently suspended from duty for the for the handling of the Andrew Mallard case. In this case, Mallard was convicted on circumstantial evidence, and recently got released from jail after new evidence proved he didn’t do it.
Anne
Mon 02 Oct 06 (12:14pm)
I was living in WA and in my late teens when the serial killings begain the in mid 90’s. It was a really scary time especially for women who were going out at night. I have always hoped they would have some kind of breakthrough with this case. Thanks for keeping us updated.
Criminologist
Mon 02 Oct 06 (12:49pm)
What would you say if the WA Police had suspects and they weren’t watching them?
How loud would the outcry be if one of these were the murderer and the Police had not kept them under observation?
It may not be pleasant, but no doubt, it is necessary.
cathy
Mon 02 Oct 06 (03:49pm)
This bit I don’t understand and hope that someone can clarify.
In the “which Shorty” case the DNA was flown to UK for more exhaustive DNA testing than capable here (according to the newspapers).
I don’t understand why it can’t be done in this case?
ian
Mon 02 Oct 06 (05:27pm)
The primary suspect seemed to have been followed around the clock for a very long time. His life became unliveable. If it turns out not to be him, we are in for the mother of all compo payments.
Jacqui_R, I think he would have no problem getting in and out of the country. Our immigration policies seem to be more racial than qualitative!
Kim
Mon 02 Oct 06 (09:18pm)
All I can think is that if the police checked immigrants leaving Perth around that time the killings stopped & took a close look at why they have left ie deported, maybe the life of that young UK girl could have been saved.
fed up
Mon 02 Oct 06 (11:15pm)
Here we go again, remember little Jon Benet, perhaps we should all wait for DNA results before there is any more speculation. There should be some consideration for the families involved (ie victim’s families). They have probably got their hopes up again and they will be (possibly) dashed. I know this stuff sells newspapers but pleeaassee have a bit of consideration for victims families.
Grandfanali
Tue 03 Oct 06 (12:43am)
Jacqui_R: Australia has MILLIONS of visitors a year, millions, so checking all of them who wish to come here is impossible. Think of how many tourists show up all round the country each and every day, and then try to imagine a system that could keep up with that sort of inflow of information with accuracy and competence. THEN try to imagine the government paying for it. As we see here, it doesn’t work.
Jonny
Tue 03 Oct 06 (02:40am)
Her name is spelt Sally Anne Bowman - not Sally Ann.
charles hedbring
Tue 03 Oct 06 (09:29am)
As a tourist staying near Fremantle at the time, I for one can attest that the police were doing their job re the Claremont slayings. I was sunbathing on a beach near Woodmans Point and was approached one afternoon by three policeman. Courteous and pleasant, they just chatted with me a few moments (where I was from, where I was staying, my name, how was I enjoying my vacation) and then moved on south along the beach. Just doing their job....
LeastDone - WA Police & Sexual Assault
Thu 05 Oct 06 (01:02pm)
Hi Gary,
Can “we” put pictures up with our posts?
LeastDone - WA Police & Sexual Assault
AussieinUK
Fri 06 Oct 06 (11:50pm)
Am following this story with interest. Was in my early 20s in Perth when the Claremont muders happened. My female friends and I were very wary of going out by ourselves and made sure no-one walked to their cars at night unaccompanied after that.
Since have been living in the UK and rather scarily lived in the very street in Croydon where Sally Anne was murdered. So got the shock of my life watching the news in Perth the other night and seeing the link between the two cases.
Dr. Phibes
Mon 09 Oct 06 (11:26pm)
I believe Sarah Spiers is in water either in Ankatel (south)or north of Wanneroo.And Sarah Mc Mahon is near Mundaring Wier.Just a feeling i get. Andyinwa@hotmail.com
author
Tue 10 Oct 06 (11:27am)
Hi Gary. I’m a true crime author now finishing a book on the Claremont serial killings for an Australian publishing company. I read this site with interest. If anyone has any stories to share re Claremont I’ll gladly take them. My deadline is three weeks.
author
Wed 11 Oct 06 (11:17am)
Thanks Gary
MightBeWorthAdding
Thu 12 Oct 06 (03:11am)
Actually, the ABC’s ‘Australian Story’ did a special on the Claremont serial killings a few years back and some of the victim’s parents expressed consternation at the police attitude that the Claremont serial killer just “suddenly stopped”. It was pointed out that it isn’t true that there have been no other disappearances/unsolved murders of women besides these three. Other young women in Perth or near Perth have also disappeared in highly suspicious circumstances - and after Ciara Glennon in 1997 too.
Some of the families of the other missing young women were concerned by the police insisting their daughter’s disappearances were definitely not connected to the Claremont serial killings. Understandably, in my opinion. Isn’t it a bit short sighted? Claremont’s just one small suburb. It’s crazy to think every other missing young woman couldn’t have met the same horrible fate too. Why shouldn’t other missing women be considered possible victims too? Just because they either didn’t have blonde hair or didn’t go missing in Claremont? That’s assuming a lot.
I’m glad they are apparently looking at new suspects though - stories like this renew my faith in the police and I hope and pray that the serial killer will be caught eventually.
Dr.Phibes
Sat 21 Oct 06 (01:11am)
I met Sarah Mc Mahon in early nov 2000. She came to my place for a visit with 2 friends on a Friday.I saw her on the Sunday afterwards. She disappeared on the day after Melbourne Cup in Nov 2000. The Police flew their chopper (Polair 61) over my 1/2 acre place near the Swan Valley, as cause i had met her.They bugged my phone for a while. I have had a woman giving me probs for ages. Don`t ya hate that, ppl accusing ya of bopping sum 1 off then annoying ya to hell thinking they can do that & sleep ok?Andy. PS: ffs, some ppl do not learn to leave some ppl alone.
missclaudia
Fri 27 Oct 06 (10:27pm)
The WA police force has a deplorable record of investigating the disappearance of and attacks on woman in Perth.
When the Birnies were hunting girls in the ‘80s, the police, despite credible and consistent reports from families and friends of the missing girls, refused to take the disappearances seriously. I was, at the time, a neighbour of one the murdered girls and heard first-hand the appalling treatment that her parents received at the hands of police. They accused the missing 15 year old, a straight A student with no problems and good references, of variously being a run-away, a prostitute, troubled, drug addled and attention-seeking.
All this in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary from fellow students, teachers, the parents, various teen counsellors and her neighbours. The police, either too incompetent or too shiftless to act, upped the ante against the teenager, accusing her of being an accomplished scammer and liar, experienced in hiding aberrant behaviour behind an angelic facade.
In fact, this poor young child was an innocent teenager, being brutally assaulted, and latterly murdered, by the Birnies.
Young women have been routinely disappearing from Perth streets since the early 80s and the police have resolutely refused to do anything about it.
The reason that the police have been brought to account, and their ineptitude exposed, more recently is that two of the parents of the missing Claremont girls had the political clout to compel the police to firstly, act and secondly, tacitly admit that they were, and had always been, out of their depth in major criminal cases.
Whilst no public statements have been issued by the international experts called in to assist WA police, it is well known by journalists that many of these experts were horrified by the lack of police process, diligence and expertise in the early stages of this investigation.
The fact that the police continue to dismiss further disappearances of women is not surprising given that at times their desire to cover their ineptitude and plain laziness has by far outweighed their commitment to preventing any further incidences.
If this UK fellow does turn out to be the Claremont killer then the police will have some serious questions to answer, not the least of which will be why they continued to harass and bully suspects long past the date when ANYONE believed the suspects had a case to answer.
I fervently hope that the Spiers can bury Sarah, that Julie Cutler’s parents find out where she is, that Ciarra and Jane’s family can at last walk down Perth streets without peering into the faces of every male they pass and that Sarah McMahon’s mother can at least know if her daughter is dead or alive.
Goldie
Sat 04 Nov 06 (05:38pm)
Hello Gary,
Did the police ever come up with a clear profile for the killer (or killers) of Ciara Glennon and Jane Rimmer?
I wonder why they’ve never stated one way or the other whether they have any DNA of the killer/s? What advantage could there be in holding this back from the public? - Goldie
Linda Bowman
Fri 10 Nov 06 (12:17pm)
i am the mother of SALLY ANNE BOWMAN, my 18year old daughter was murdered on 25th september 2005. she was brutally stabbed to death and sexually assaulted. i keep reading about the clairmont murders in perth western australia, but to my knowledge no! D.N.A. has been requested from london on mark dixie, alias shane turner from the australian police, i wish it had so the families in australia of these younge girls who have been murdered there can maybe have some closure if the D.N.A. is a match. The parents in australia need to push this matter with the Australian police A.S.A.P.
pye
Sun 12 Nov 06 (08:24am)
. http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=150338 Not according to this report .I dont think the Brit police will state publicly any information about this until the outcome of the trial of Dixie ,It could interfear or influence his plea
phantom62
Wed 15 Nov 06 (05:08am)
This is very interesting, but as far as I know, the police have NO DNA found on the bodies of the two victims so far found. They have stated that the bodies were in too advanced a state of decomposition to obtain any. But here is something I have suspected for a while. It is based on the fact that the police warrant stipulated that they were searching for human body tissue and flesh when they were searching Mr Weygers properties. The police have stated that they killer washed his car on site after dumping the bodies. I suspect that the killer only washed the part of the car that may have bloodstains on it. The killer probably drives a utility or station wagon and would have used the tailgate to “process” the body before dumping them. That is to say, the killer needed to remove body parts that may have got DNA on them during the course of the murder. Sally Anne Bowman was found to have bite marks on her body. So it would seem for the murder victims here too. Maybe also the killers DNA was under their finger nails. So these parts may have been missing from the bodies. They may even have been discarded close to the vehicle. I wonder if any one can tell me the eye colours for Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon? I know it seems gruesome but Catherine Birnie claimed she amputated the parts of their victims breasts that may have DNA after they were dead. David Birnie also mutilated the bodies to make them more difficult to find where they were buried. With regard to the person writing a book about these killings, I may have some data he could use that ties the murders and disappearances together. Before you ask, no I am not the killer. I was a military intelligence analyst before I retired, so I like to keep my mind turning over by doing some armchair detective work. But I can show you or the author that there is a direct link between these killings and the disappearance of Lisa Mott.
David Daniel Ball
Mon 02 Oct 06 (02:14am)
I think this illustrates that cooperation between law enforcement of different nations .. and press, works. Still, I wonder how many more crimes might be solved through sharing databases of criminal DNA.
Jacqui_R
Mon 02 Oct 06 (09:12am)
I’m wondering how on earth some of these people get jobs? A tax file number is required if you’re to get work, also, I would have thought this guy was bound to have some sort of criminal record, if so, how did he manage to enter the country in the first place? you’d think some sort of flag would be raised?.
Jacqui_R
Mon 02 Oct 06 (10:59am)
Which still leaves the question of how he got in, in the first place, I would have thought this guy would have some sort of prior history, I know that in the case of Americans that have committed a felony, it shows on their passports, therefore they can be denied an entry visa, if this doesn’t apply to other countries it should, the last thing we need is criminals from other countries coming in and committing crimes here. Co-operation between law agencies of various countries is all well and good, but we need it to happen before the fact, not after a crime has been committed.
animal
Mon 02 Oct 06 (11:25am)
It would be interesting to know if there were bite marks found on the bodies of the 2 victims here. These 2 bodies were also found at opposite ends of the Perth metro area, not too far from the main freeway that runs through Perth. Therefore it makes sense that if the suspect was a tourist then he dumped the bodies close to a main road and where the residential area was getting sparser. I really hope the DNA does match as this has been 10 years since the killings and the investigation has gone nowhere. There has been a suspect watched intensely for at least the last 5 years (detectives watching his house 24/7 early on) and this was mainly on the basis that he was a loner who used to drive around the city at all hours and saw one of the victims on the night she disappeared. He also lived in the suburb next to Claremont. The intense scrutiny and focus on this individual has cost thousands of dollars and it will make the WA Police look real bad. Especially considering the head of the Macro task force was recently suspended from duty for the for the handling of the Andrew Mallard case. In this case, Mallard was convicted on circumstantial evidence, and recently got released from jail after new evidence proved he didn’t do it.
Anne
Mon 02 Oct 06 (12:14pm)
I was living in WA and in my late teens when the serial killings begain the in mid 90’s. It was a really scary time especially for women who were going out at night. I have always hoped they would have some kind of breakthrough with this case. Thanks for keeping us updated.
Criminologist
Mon 02 Oct 06 (12:49pm)
What would you say if the WA Police had suspects and they weren’t watching them?
How loud would the outcry be if one of these were the murderer and the Police had not kept them under observation?
It may not be pleasant, but no doubt, it is necessary.
cathy
Mon 02 Oct 06 (03:49pm)
This bit I don’t understand and hope that someone can clarify.
In the “which Shorty” case the DNA was flown to UK for more exhaustive DNA testing than capable here (according to the newspapers).
I don’t understand why it can’t be done in this case?
ian
Mon 02 Oct 06 (05:27pm)
The primary suspect seemed to have been followed around the clock for a very long time. His life became unliveable. If it turns out not to be him, we are in for the mother of all compo payments.
Jacqui_R, I think he would have no problem getting in and out of the country. Our immigration policies seem to be more racial than qualitative!
Kim
Mon 02 Oct 06 (09:18pm)
All I can think is that if the police checked immigrants leaving Perth around that time the killings stopped & took a close look at why they have left ie deported, maybe the life of that young UK girl could have been saved.
fed up
Mon 02 Oct 06 (11:15pm)
Here we go again, remember little Jon Benet, perhaps we should all wait for DNA results before there is any more speculation. There should be some consideration for the families involved (ie victim’s families). They have probably got their hopes up again and they will be (possibly) dashed. I know this stuff sells newspapers but pleeaassee have a bit of consideration for victims families.
Grandfanali
Tue 03 Oct 06 (12:43am)
Jacqui_R: Australia has MILLIONS of visitors a year, millions, so checking all of them who wish to come here is impossible. Think of how many tourists show up all round the country each and every day, and then try to imagine a system that could keep up with that sort of inflow of information with accuracy and competence. THEN try to imagine the government paying for it. As we see here, it doesn’t work.
Jonny
Tue 03 Oct 06 (02:40am)
Her name is spelt Sally Anne Bowman - not Sally Ann.
charles hedbring
Tue 03 Oct 06 (09:29am)
As a tourist staying near Fremantle at the time, I for one can attest that the police were doing their job re the Claremont slayings. I was sunbathing on a beach near Woodmans Point and was approached one afternoon by three policeman. Courteous and pleasant, they just chatted with me a few moments (where I was from, where I was staying, my name, how was I enjoying my vacation) and then moved on south along the beach. Just doing their job....
LeastDone - WA Police & Sexual Assault
Thu 05 Oct 06 (01:02pm)
Hi Gary,
Can “we” put pictures up with our posts?
LeastDone - WA Police & Sexual Assault
AussieinUK
Fri 06 Oct 06 (11:50pm)
Am following this story with interest. Was in my early 20s in Perth when the Claremont muders happened. My female friends and I were very wary of going out by ourselves and made sure no-one walked to their cars at night unaccompanied after that.
Since have been living in the UK and rather scarily lived in the very street in Croydon where Sally Anne was murdered. So got the shock of my life watching the news in Perth the other night and seeing the link between the two cases.
Dr. Phibes
Mon 09 Oct 06 (11:26pm)
I believe Sarah Spiers is in water either in Ankatel (south)or north of Wanneroo.And Sarah Mc Mahon is near Mundaring Wier.Just a feeling i get. Andyinwa@hotmail.com
author
Tue 10 Oct 06 (11:27am)
Hi Gary. I’m a true crime author now finishing a book on the Claremont serial killings for an Australian publishing company. I read this site with interest. If anyone has any stories to share re Claremont I’ll gladly take them. My deadline is three weeks.
author
Wed 11 Oct 06 (11:17am)
Thanks Gary
MightBeWorthAdding
Thu 12 Oct 06 (03:11am)
Actually, the ABC’s ‘Australian Story’ did a special on the Claremont serial killings a few years back and some of the victim’s parents expressed consternation at the police attitude that the Claremont serial killer just “suddenly stopped”. It was pointed out that it isn’t true that there have been no other disappearances/unsolved murders of women besides these three. Other young women in Perth or near Perth have also disappeared in highly suspicious circumstances - and after Ciara Glennon in 1997 too.
Some of the families of the other missing young women were concerned by the police insisting their daughter’s disappearances were definitely not connected to the Claremont serial killings. Understandably, in my opinion. Isn’t it a bit short sighted? Claremont’s just one small suburb. It’s crazy to think every other missing young woman couldn’t have met the same horrible fate too. Why shouldn’t other missing women be considered possible victims too? Just because they either didn’t have blonde hair or didn’t go missing in Claremont? That’s assuming a lot.
I’m glad they are apparently looking at new suspects though - stories like this renew my faith in the police and I hope and pray that the serial killer will be caught eventually.
Dr.Phibes
Sat 21 Oct 06 (01:11am)
I met Sarah Mc Mahon in early nov 2000. She came to my place for a visit with 2 friends on a Friday.I saw her on the Sunday afterwards. She disappeared on the day after Melbourne Cup in Nov 2000. The Police flew their chopper (Polair 61) over my 1/2 acre place near the Swan Valley, as cause i had met her.They bugged my phone for a while. I have had a woman giving me probs for ages. Don`t ya hate that, ppl accusing ya of bopping sum 1 off then annoying ya to hell thinking they can do that & sleep ok?Andy. PS: ffs, some ppl do not learn to leave some ppl alone.
missclaudia
Fri 27 Oct 06 (10:27pm)
The WA police force has a deplorable record of investigating the disappearance of and attacks on woman in Perth.
When the Birnies were hunting girls in the ‘80s, the police, despite credible and consistent reports from families and friends of the missing girls, refused to take the disappearances seriously. I was, at the time, a neighbour of one the murdered girls and heard first-hand the appalling treatment that her parents received at the hands of police. They accused the missing 15 year old, a straight A student with no problems and good references, of variously being a run-away, a prostitute, troubled, drug addled and attention-seeking.
All this in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary from fellow students, teachers, the parents, various teen counsellors and her neighbours. The police, either too incompetent or too shiftless to act, upped the ante against the teenager, accusing her of being an accomplished scammer and liar, experienced in hiding aberrant behaviour behind an angelic facade.
In fact, this poor young child was an innocent teenager, being brutally assaulted, and latterly murdered, by the Birnies.
Young women have been routinely disappearing from Perth streets since the early 80s and the police have resolutely refused to do anything about it.
The reason that the police have been brought to account, and their ineptitude exposed, more recently is that two of the parents of the missing Claremont girls had the political clout to compel the police to firstly, act and secondly, tacitly admit that they were, and had always been, out of their depth in major criminal cases.
Whilst no public statements have been issued by the international experts called in to assist WA police, it is well known by journalists that many of these experts were horrified by the lack of police process, diligence and expertise in the early stages of this investigation.
The fact that the police continue to dismiss further disappearances of women is not surprising given that at times their desire to cover their ineptitude and plain laziness has by far outweighed their commitment to preventing any further incidences.
If this UK fellow does turn out to be the Claremont killer then the police will have some serious questions to answer, not the least of which will be why they continued to harass and bully suspects long past the date when ANYONE believed the suspects had a case to answer.
I fervently hope that the Spiers can bury Sarah, that Julie Cutler’s parents find out where she is, that Ciarra and Jane’s family can at last walk down Perth streets without peering into the faces of every male they pass and that Sarah McMahon’s mother can at least know if her daughter is dead or alive.
Goldie
Sat 04 Nov 06 (05:38pm)
Hello Gary,
Did the police ever come up with a clear profile for the killer (or killers) of Ciara Glennon and Jane Rimmer?
I wonder why they’ve never stated one way or the other whether they have any DNA of the killer/s? What advantage could there be in holding this back from the public? - Goldie
Linda Bowman
Fri 10 Nov 06 (12:17pm)
i am the mother of SALLY ANNE BOWMAN, my 18year old daughter was murdered on 25th september 2005. she was brutally stabbed to death and sexually assaulted. i keep reading about the clairmont murders in perth western australia, but to my knowledge no! D.N.A. has been requested from london on mark dixie, alias shane turner from the australian police, i wish it had so the families in australia of these younge girls who have been murdered there can maybe have some closure if the D.N.A. is a match. The parents in australia need to push this matter with the Australian police A.S.A.P.
pye
Sun 12 Nov 06 (08:24am)
. http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=150338 Not according to this report .I dont think the Brit police will state publicly any information about this until the outcome of the trial of Dixie ,It could interfear or influence his plea
phantom62
Wed 15 Nov 06 (05:08am)
This is very interesting, but as far as I know, the police have NO DNA found on the bodies of the two victims so far found. They have stated that the bodies were in too advanced a state of decomposition to obtain any. But here is something I have suspected for a while. It is based on the fact that the police warrant stipulated that they were searching for human body tissue and flesh when they were searching Mr Weygers properties. The police have stated that they killer washed his car on site after dumping the bodies. I suspect that the killer only washed the part of the car that may have bloodstains on it. The killer probably drives a utility or station wagon and would have used the tailgate to “process” the body before dumping them. That is to say, the killer needed to remove body parts that may have got DNA on them during the course of the murder. Sally Anne Bowman was found to have bite marks on her body. So it would seem for the murder victims here too. Maybe also the killers DNA was under their finger nails. So these parts may have been missing from the bodies. They may even have been discarded close to the vehicle. I wonder if any one can tell me the eye colours for Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon? I know it seems gruesome but Catherine Birnie claimed she amputated the parts of their victims breasts that may have DNA after they were dead. David Birnie also mutilated the bodies to make them more difficult to find where they were buried. With regard to the person writing a book about these killings, I may have some data he could use that ties the murders and disappearances together. Before you ask, no I am not the killer. I was a military intelligence analyst before I retired, so I like to keep my mind turning over by doing some armchair detective work. But I can show you or the author that there is a direct link between these killings and the disappearance of Lisa Mott.
john
Wed 13 Dec 06 (06:37am)
now 5 prostitues found dead by serial killer in ipswich suffolk uk two found today 12/12/06http://www.sky.com/news
john
Wed 13 Dec 06 (10:27am)
thanks dr phibes for area proximity of champion lake most[interesting]are police treating blackburn and agge cases as a murder enquiry yet?as 14 days have elapsed since their disapearences [which is the norm] http://www.police.wa.gov.au have also experienced polair 61 and phone bugging was informed by oz army sas mate chopper carries heat seeking censors[equipment] i request from phantom 62 more detailed area proximity of glennon site was it at end of the bituman road? will check goggle earth.com unaware of running creek at walcott road rimmer site she was dumped near end on left side of then part bituman road[today fully bitumaned] its likely he u turned so not to leave tyre tracks on the continues gravel road ahead not so at the gerald ross site at stakehill road some 8kms away where tyre tracks were found to resemble a van being used confirmed to me by certain detectives there are also striking similiaraties the way rimmer and ross were dumped will post later
phantom62
Thu 14 Dec 06 (12:05am)
John of UK I can give you exact information.
Ciara Glennon was found at South 31 degrees 34 minutes 956 seconds by East 115 degrees 40 minutes 40 seconds.
Jane Rimmer was found at South 32 degrees 16 minutes 353 seconds by East 115 degrees 51 minutes 553 seconds.
You are correct that Woolcoot Rd was gravel when Jane was dumped. Ciara was found 60 metres off Pipidinny Road and 800 metres from where the road bends near Lacey Rd. I also believe that these killings are related to the disappearance of Lisa Mott. If you draw a line from Ciara to Jane and then continue it South it intersects the town of Collie. The distance is exactly 200 kms at a small stream on Ewing Rd.
I saw a news report of the killings in Suffolk and in particular one of the girls who was interviewed a week before she too was murdered. (creepy) But one thing that stood out in the photo was her eyes.....GREEN.
Is anyone in UK able to find out the colour of the other victims’ eyes?
Here is an interesting scenario you may wish to consider.
The killings in West Australia have stopped as far as we know. There is a bit of publicity no doubt in UK too about Mark Dixie possibly connected with the killings in WA. The police have now disproved his involvement. Now suddenly 5 girls are killed in avery short space of time. Could this be the same killer as Perth letting us know he is still active? I know it is a long hunch but can anyone furnish me with the locations of the 5 bodies so far in relation to a set map of the UK or at least Suffolk?
The disappearance at Champion Lake is still open, and I will try to get some other data in the next few days. Now I have so much data from the new mapping software I now have a whole set of new locations to check out for possible remains. I am also interested in the death of Gerard Ross but find it hard to accept that his killer is the same person. On the other hand the girl killed in Mandurah in the 1980s body was found near Pinjarra, which falls into the line between Collie and Jane Rimmer. More later.
phantom62
Thu 14 Dec 06 (12:55am)
OK. Forget my hunches on the Suffolk killings. They are not connected with the Perth killings at all. They all had different coloured eyes, their bodies were scattered randomly probably because he drove around waiting for the right opportunity to dump them unseen and quickly. I suspect he is someone who uses prostitutes regularly and has had a bad experience with one recently, maybe caught a disease or wasn’t able to perform? It may be possible, because he uses them often, that many prostitutes know him and that is why he has been able to pick up these 5 so quickly.
One possible idea for clues: the girls who were dumped in woodland were probably near tracks with trees or shrubs close to the edge of the road. Maybe the police should check along this track to see if there are any branches or sticks that have traces of paint on them from scratching the killers vehicle.
Dr.Phibes
Thu 14 Dec 06 (09:13pm)
Um, John I don`t know anything re Blackburn & Agge cases over here. Haven`t heard anything about it at all. In Regards to Polair 61. They flew their chopper over the paddocks near my place & did a u - turn over Roe Highway & came straight back over my place. I was replacing the veranda poles at the time,(arvo in November 2000), & managed to get a camera out as they went past to do the u turn. I took 1 or 2 more as they flew over.My block of land is a reas. size, but is narrow but quite long. I saw their thermal imaging camers out the side/left front.It was too big of a job to have someone go over the 1/2 acre block with a push radar cart.They used the chopper so they didn`t have to get a warrant and could get heat readings of the ground if a mates lady friend (Sarah Mc Mahon)was there.They flew smack down the Middle then went straight back to base. Hey your Ipswitch Serial Killer is going hammer & tongs (excuse the pun) with the 5 prostitues who have been killed. Guess he`s trying to improve on our New South Wales Backpacker killer Ivan Milat. I think he got to 7 but probably far more they recon. In regards to Gerald Ross who was found in Baldivis; I was riding my dirtbike down that way in the Baldivis pine plantation when i rode past a cross. I thought someone on a bike had come unstuck,as they do quite alot over here in the stix. I went back & had a look & found it was erected by the Shoalwater Task Force who were investigating his disappearance.He was found off an internal track in the small plantation.Bit hard to drive in there with the ruts & sand unless u had a 4wd.Some tracks u can use a 2wd.A few people from the local horse riding school ride thru there. Jane R was identified by her belly ring.She was a daycare worker near my workplace but there r quite a few d/c places in Wembley. Perth.
Dr.Phibes
Thu 14 Dec 06 (10:19pm)
John i did a search in the Police site u linked us all to.Yes those 2 women are missing. But there hasn`t been much on the news( well i haven`t seen anything) Alot of ppl go missing but most take shelter at friends as they don`t want to be found as they want to sort their immediate probs out. Thats why it isn`t big news for a few days. They simply turn up later,well mostly.
phantom62
Tue 19 Dec 06 (09:51am)
I am happy to report that Anna Agge was located on the 3rd of December. This is typical of our police who seem to forget to let the public know when we need to stop looking. Or maybe it’s the media who no longer find the subject news worthy so they don’t waste their time with it any more. I also see the UK cops have made an arrest of a former cop in relation to the Suffolk Strangler killings. An ex-cop no less, who uses prostitutes regularly.
There is a strongly held belief here in Perth that the Claremont serial killer is either a serving cop or ex cop. That would make it a lot easier for him to stay in the area unobtrusively where he could watch the taxi ranks or monitor a scanner for the taxi calls.
john
Fri 22 Dec 06 (10:05am)
man charged steve wright with the serial killings of 5 prostitutes in ipswich suffolk uk 10 31 pm gmt 21/12/06
phantom62
Sun 24 Dec 06 (06:35am)
Good to see the poms found the Suffolk Strangler so quick. Maybe they could have a look at the Claremont Serial Killer to see what theyfind.
john
Sun 31 Dec 06 (09:29am)
REGARDS TO ALL FOR 2007 AND ASHES WIN NOT HUMAN OF COURSE LOL ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE COULD SOMEONE BRIEF ME ON LATEST MURDER VICTIM STACEY LEE MITCHELL 16 YR OLD GIRL AT REAR OF 14 RUTLAND AVE LATHLAIN 21/12/06 http://WWW.POLICE.WA.GOV.AU WHEN AND WHERE GO MISSING NO MEDIA COVERAGE POSTED I SEE POLICE COMMISSIONER OCALLAHAN HAS HIS TERM EXTENDED FURTHER 5 YRS LETS HOPE EVEN BEYOND THAT [DOES THIS SIGINIFY POSITIVE SIGNS ON THE CRIME SCENES] SOMEHOW I THINK SO? HE KICKED ARSE WITHIN THE FORCE WHICH NO DOUBT MADE HIM UNPOPULAR I HAVE THE UPMOST RESPECT FOR THIS GUY
phantom62
Fri 05 Jan 07 (05:54am)
Dr Phibes, Do you know if Sarah McMahon belonged to a health club in the Claremont area? If so do you know which one? I have been doing some legwork in the Bayview Tce area and made quite a startling discovery. I am reasonably sure that each victim knew the killer, the killer had previously selected them from a list he had possession of, I think I know where each victim was murdered ( the same place) They were probably kept in this place after their death and then driven to their dumping grounds the following night. I have some more legwork to do now to find out the name of the killer, but at least I know what happened to each victim. If I am correct this case should be solved before June 2007. Can anyone tell me what clothes, jewellry and accessories each victim was wearing on the night of their murders? I believe none of this has been found yet. It may be important now.
phantom62
Fri 05 Jan 07 (05:57am)
I touched on the Falconio disappearance a few weeks ago but now I was wondering if we could start a blog on this subject. There are many inconsistencies in this story and it would beinteresting to see how much other people might know, especially if they are familiar with the area north of Barrow Creek.
john
Wed 17 Jan 07 (11:20pm)
gary hughes are u still taking comments on this page can you confirm
Dr.Phibes
Fri 19 Jan 07 (10:22pm)
Two young ladies 17 or 18 have been charged with her murder John. Guess they forgot to swap wheelie bins (rubbish bins) with another house in the street… Reminds me of the idiots at snowtown with the bodies in the barrels in the disused bank vault.Was only a matter of time in both cases.
john
Sat 20 Jan 07 (06:43am)
hi phantom62 there was a health club demolished last year on stirling highway claremont opposite church and caporn estate agents where spiers was last seen at telephone box [previously demolished] can anyone brief on missing girls christine upton 9/12/06 at carramar and stacey mitchell 21/12/06 at lathlain
Dr.Phibes
Wed 24 Jan 07 (11:27pm)
Phantom62 I don`t think Sarah McMahon belonged to a health club in Claremont. She lived virtually on the opposite side of town to Claremont.
You say each victim knew the killer.They were selected from a list. You say you know where they were murdered? You recon you need to do more legwork to find the C.S.K`s name? You know what happened to each victim? Um, you seem to know alot that most people do not know. I know a bit too. But you ask about clothing missing,Jewellery & accessories missing that virtually everyone knows were taken; Brooch, sunflower keyring etc. etc. Give me a buzz. Andy andyinwa@hotmail.com
Dr.Phibes
Wed 24 Jan 07 (11:43pm)
These 2 sites, especially the 1st one are compelling viewing. Gary i hope you let me show the links; andy.
http://www.postnewspapers.com.au/20010901/
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s146359.htm
K
Sat 27 Jan 07 (10:16am)
I find it quite absurd that you are suggesting these victims were selected depending on thier eye colour. this assumes that the offender knew his victims, or at least had seen them before, in order to target them based on thier eye colour. Also it seems unlikely that a serial sex offender would wait to encounter a victim with his prefered eye colour before offending. Even if it is established that all these girls did have green eyes, what does this tell us?? The cases could not possibly be linked on such a weak association.
john
Sat 03 Feb 07 (01:29pm)
the state crime squad i believe link serial killer with other cold case crimes and have info to support that theory popidinka/mcmahon/ugle/deb anderson found in her burnt out car possibly torched? on oz day long weekend same day 25/1 anniversary of spiers or just coincidence?i beg to differ also scs refuse to confirm or deny if police mislaid/lost two possible vital pieces of physical evidence and why did a high ranked scs officer assist oic vinney kins.... resign one week after info was passed to him in which he replied we want physical evidence theory is he was at odds with his oic anthony lee [knickname kirky] concerning info alternativly passed onto police commisioner ocallahan for answers via his liason officer kate m......i await their reply
phantom62
Wed 14 Feb 07 (03:09am)
OK I was going to send all I knew to the cops after my last letter, but the feedback from K of London and Dr Phibes has made me release some stuff. Let’s start with Sarah Spiers. She was last seen on Stirling Rd waiting for a taxi. She disappeared quickly
Jane Rimmer Last seen walking down St Quebtin Ave in front of Club Bayview.
Ciara Glennon last seen standing outside shops in Stirling Highway opposite McDonalds store.
All three of these victims were last seen standing and they could all be seen from the first floor windows of.............The BC Body Club health club. It is possible all three were members of this health club. Someone inside looks out the window and sees each victim standing. He knows there names because they are all members. And he already knows their eyecolour from seeing them. They may well have known him, since they all simply got into his car without a fight. He drives them to the health club and kills them there, wraps them in black plastic and dumps them in his car. The cops don’t come near his shop since they think it was closed late at night. As soon as the cops have finished he drives the bodies to previously selected dumping grouns. In Sarah Speirs case she may well have been buried in the garden beds at the health club. A few years later he closes the club. It remains vacant for a few years until one night it is torched by persons unknown. If there was any evidence there it’s well gone now.
Ok so that should answer Dr Phibes. Now K of London the only reason I ask about jewellery worn by the victims is because I frequent jewellery sales at auctions. By now the killer may have died or been jailed or moved on. But I still want to keep an eye out for their jewellery.
Write direct to me at phantom62@hotmail.com
john
Sat 24 Feb 07 (01:52am)
i ask phantom 62 again about the glennon site was it off bitumen road in bush on left side head east from coast or left side of road head west to coast or was it off non bitumen track which runs parallel with bitumen road head west to coast because goggleearth.com give same degree positions for all 3 mentioned
tracycudd
Sun 25 Feb 07 (09:10pm)
hi id like to say that mark dixie, was running my local pub at the time he killed sally anne bowman, many of us regulars got friendly with him, my partner took him to football matches, and we spent alot of time in the pub with him and and his wife and his little son who is a double of him too! my grandson played with him, we remember going in the pub one day and he had scratches on his neck and face, he said he had a fight with his wife, but many of us believe now that, it could have been sally anne, we are all so shocked that we befriended this low life scum bag, and our hearts are with her and her family, no one from the police has asked the regulars about him only the staff well i speak on behalf of the rose and crown regulars we pray justice for sally anne and her family god bless xxx that
Dr.Phibes
Fri 02 Mar 07 (11:50pm)
Sorry Phantom62, I wasn`t trying to wind ya up. I just wanted to know why the secrecy with your info.Interesting re the Health club theory. But as i said Sarah Mc Mahon only worked in Claremont & would probably been a member of a club in the hills near her home. In the link i provided above, a casual worker at an East Fremantle Company had a girlfriend who wore a gladdagh ring. Ciara Glennon wore a claddagh (irish) brooch. How co-incidental that is i have thought.The worker was capable of turning the brooch into a ring.Phantom u haven`t mentioned what exactly happened to the women.Send me an e mail if you can. I`ll tell u what i know. John of the u.k; I have tried to get the W.A. Police to re-open the Deborah Michelle Anderson case in Middle Swan. I knew the young Lady`s Auntie.So i said i`d try to get it reopened for her. No luck when i tried. Tracey of U.K; Did you go to the police re your suspicions of Mark Dixie? There is a lake or 3 down south where i want to have a look at. One area is where the Freeway may have gone thru an area where a lady (who has commented on here) and i think Sarah S. may be. An off ramp may now be covering the spot, so i want to go to Dept.of Land Administration in Midland, Perth to check out old maps. As someone said Google Earth is a great tool to use,and that has been helpful. Dr.Phibes.
Dr.Phibes
Sat 03 Mar 07 (12:08am)
Hi ya Gary, here is another v.g link the blog readers may like to have a look at.
http://www.abc.net.au/austory/content/2003/s1042100.htm
john
Sun 11 Mar 07 (12:13am)
hi can anyone or phan 62 or even gary hughes advise me on the actual position of the glennon dump site.
tracycudd
Mon 12 Mar 07 (06:49am)
HI
DR.PHIBES, REGUARDING YOUR QUESTION, NO WE DIDINT GO TO POLICE, AS ITS ONLY SINCE HIS ARREST THAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT AGAIN, AND AS WE CANNOT REMEMBER WHEN THIS HAPPENED, WE CANNOT PROVE OTHERWISE, BUT WE ARE ALL AGREED THAT WE THINK IT WAS AROUND THE TIME, BUT AS I SAY WE ARE NOT 100% ON IT, I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE CASE AND ALSO THE CLAREMONT CRIMES TOO, IF YOU CAN TELL ME ANYTHING THAT I CANT FIND ON NET I WILL PUT MY EMAIL ADDRESS ON PAGE, AM NOT PERSUMING ANYONE CAN BUT JUST INCASE, THANX TRACY XXX
tracycudd
Mon 12 Mar 07 (06:51am)
sorry forgot email tracycudd@aol.com
john
Tue 13 Mar 07 (09:27am)
i would reason with phantom 62 about the 80 km distance between the glennon / rimmer dump sites and have always been somewhat suspicious concerning the exact proximity 40 km north and south of the abduction points it is evident to see that in no way rimmer [regardless of badly decomposed body] he lay at edge of part bitumen walcott rd baldives for 8 weeks since her abduction at claremont which may suggest the killer had a holding area in addition to murder and dump sites although remote it is part residential and consider her body size someone would have found her sooner rather than later gerald ross would also come under scrutiny as victim of same killer his dump site 8 km away at karnup in striking similarities the way dumped as rimmer he at a u turn point of track on left side at forefront of forest making no attempt to disguise body in forest is as if he wanted body to be found [probably to taunt police further]? in both cases it suggests a van was used with slide door on left side of van with quick access to roll out and dump a body and as police have confirmed to me van tyre tracks were found remember case of girl raped at karrakata cementry nr claremont [police seem to believe victim of serial killer]she was hooded /bound /and pushed into something she said resembled a van all this has the hallmarks of a killer with military background [planner]which police are aware of and seek
Phantom62
Fri 16 Mar 07 (01:44pm)
John of UK, I have previously given everybody the exact locations of both Jane and Ciara’s bodies in this blog. However I will say that Ciara Glenon was found 40 metres off the Pipidinny Rd near a parking spot that is used by a beekeeper. There is a cross erected that marks the exact spot. As to your belief the killer used a van with a side opening door to just roll the bodies out, I would disagree. Ciara was found in deep bushland 40 mteres away from the parking bay as well. She was deliberately placed there at exactly the same angle before North that Jane was placed, the same angle before South. (11 degress in both cases) I think the killer has a utility and that is also why the cops are finding car washing gear at each site. But I think he is only washing the small amount of area that may have DNA on it, rather than the whole car.
Dr.Phibes
Sun 18 Mar 07 (11:55pm)
Hi ja John, I have been to the G.Ross site in Baldivis.Where he was found wouldn`t easily have been seen by a fast 4 wh. Driver, but someone on a horse from a local horse club did find him.
In Regards to Jane Rimmer, as you drive down Woolcoot Rd,Wellard, towards Miller Rd, she was found 2 to 3 metres approx from a culvert that runs underneath the road, though on the right side of the road & in the semi-Ditch.There is a cross there. John i know you live far away, but there were mistakes in your suburbs to the victims. In regards to jane, yes i cannot believe no one saw her as she was so close to the road someone had to.Yes there was probably a dungeon involved.They searched under my lil house too,but that was due to a different situation.But they had an excuse(due to my home invasion & subsequently me stopping the character)to look under the house & they found a bone, probably a dogs buried 1 there,ffs, heh. You mentioned a military background. Well Serial Killers plan well so they can carry on doing what they obviously are addicted to.Boy Scouts can tie knots like courier drivers can too,& everyone can dig a hole.So the military lead is a guess i think.
john
Thu 22 Mar 07 (12:35am)
hi dr phibes police seek and are aware of killer with military background [which was mentioned in past by media] the first question asked to me[am i ex military]by macro at crane house perth they somewhat agreed he may have known his victims rimmer was dumped on left side woolcott rd wellard[thanks for suburb correction]drive north from miller rd hi phantom 62 glennon was a small petit girl easy to carry[i know that from a woman friend who went to same school and new her mother who also taught their aswell she new cutler who went their also] unlike rimmer she was carried from vechicle to dump site what i ask is was she carried to and dumped 40 metres at side of bitumen rd or side of track that runs parallel head west to coast or dump side bitumen head east from coast basically i want to know if she was dumped at side of bitumen rd or side of track theory is he carried body so not to scratch his car the hit [match] found on ahdesive tape at rimmer site by international review found but missed by macro is not the big dna match mentioned by malcolm boots[uk forensic scentist at the review]but obviously would say when we conversed and sms in uk i believe is a victim-suspect or victim-victim[unrelated] or victim-victim [unrelated]to suspect personally i believe a cloths fibre match? by scs ex assist oic vinney kins....saying to me we want physical evidence suggests state crime squad have suspect exibits reason why enquiry is ongoing
Dr.Phibes
Thu 29 Mar 07 (10:39pm)
Phantom, Robin Napper who worked for the centre for Forensic Science at U.W.A (uni of W.A.) & is now a lecturer at U.W.A is giving a lecture on Wed. 18 April at 7.30pm at the Social Science Lecture Theatre. He has worked at the FBI in it`s behavourial science unit as well as other areas to do with Serial Killers etc. I hope to be there. Booking # is 6488 2433 according to the site.Look up Robin Napper on google if u are keen.
tracycudd
Sun 08 Apr 07 (04:49am)
HI all since my last posting, i have had a visit from a national news paper, reguarding mark dixie, alias shane turner, a male friend of mine, who has more stories to tell about him than myself, was here at the time, so once the trial is over the stories will come out, Though i cannot say on the site what we have been told , That dixie has said in his defence, but i must say it is was sick, and made him look worse than he already does , our source has said that his defence team will never let him say it as it does him no favours at all.
can any one update me on the claremont unsolved murders and wether dixie is still a suspect , in it or any other cases over there thanx tracy
Dr.Phibes
Wed 18 Apr 07 (10:30pm)
It seems the Claremont Serial Killer enjoys Orienteering with a bizarre twist.To those who don`t know what that is; it`s map reading,using a map,compass & visualising terrain hills etc to go over a course or in a direction. It is possible he is directing us to the hills,Parkerville, Mundaring & mabee onto Gidgegannup, fill up the gas tank & take a picnic lunch if anyone heads to gidge.Check out Lovers Lane in Gidgegannup too, Just a stab in the dark with that 1.heh. Please excuse the pun.
riddell
Fri 27 Apr 07 (11:21pm)
I have been reading with interest all the theories on the Sarsh S Sarah M cases any new ideas
Craig
Mon 30 Apr 07 (05:42pm)
I don’t believe that the police have any usable DNA evidence on the Claremont serial killer. If they did then they could have excluded their prime suspect as the killer. It also wouldn’t surprise me if the Gerald Ross case was linked. I believe that all crimes were commited by two young men from the Kwinana area who possibly had access to someone’s taxi.
phantom62
Sun 06 May 07 (12:47am)
You may be right Dr Phibes, about Gidgegannup. The question is where? I have drawn a circle from the centre point between Ciara and Jane. This point is not in Bayview. It is in fact on The Boulevard, City Beach just opposite a small shopping centre and very close to a big block of vacant bush. I traced the centre line at the same angle as the point from Ciara and Jane and I have driven out to Gidge, but the actual point is in the middle of a large block of land so it does not fit the MO for this person. He prefers to dump them near roads or tracks. I will be going to the Stae library soon to check archives of newspapers to make sure about all the facts the cops have given as far as clothing, jewellery and last seen where abouts are as I have them. One of the decriptions for Sarah Spiers was that she was wearing high heeled platform shoes on the night she disappeared. About 2 years ago virtually on the anniversary of Ciara’s murder a high heeled platformed shoe was strung over the power lines at the centre point above. I reported it to the cops but the shoe was still there a few weeks later when I went back. I had a good look around the bush area there too, but not having an exact reference to go to, I was wasting my time although I did find a big pile of bicycles covered by branches there. I told the cops about that too.The next thing to check is each point in the circle every 11 degrees, that being the difference between the body sites 169 and 349 degrees to North and south. One thing I have not checked but will try is to work out how much of the circle is on land in degrees and then divide that by 11. Almost half the circle is in the ocean. That may explain the odd angle. It does roughly run parallel to the WA coast.
Dr.Phibes
Wed 09 May 07 (09:19pm)
Yes!! Phantom. On my perth map(not a topographical map), i measured 215mm south & north from the 2 sites & i too came to the boulevard & not Claremont.(this will vary according to what map we all have, but everyones 2 distances will be the same). As you have obviously run a line from the Pippidinny rd site to Woolcoot Rd. I have drawn some 90Deg angles.If we draw a line at St.quentin ave it roughly goes thru Mundaring to the east.At Bold park @ 90 Deg it runs through Midland.The same distance east i get to Mundaring,Stoneville & Parkerville, approx.I do not get a good feeling at Bold Pk.& its huge as you know.Nor do i at the nearby Boulevard bushland at Wembley Downs near my work. Phantom i will e mail you my next search areas & why i am drawn there.1 is near Boya & other is Parkerville area, but nothing to do with Sarah Mc. M. Then it`s back to Bold Pk etc.
john
Tue 15 May 07 (03:12am)
the latest woman to be found dead in her car near the woolworths shopping centre at stanhope road kalamunda may suggest the serial killer has struck yet again with striking similarities to the deb anderson suspected murder case
john
Tue 15 May 07 (04:35am)
deb anderson although uncertain if she sustained injuries was found in her burnt out car at a [ high profile crime scene area] middle swan shop centre dance drive midland or midland gate shop centre [a correction made to me by an ex scs cop] are in close proximity to kalamunda in this latest case it seems an unsuccessful attempt was made to torch the car and abdominal stab wounds were found a similar fate with the claremont women [an urban myth maybe?]
sam from perth
Thu 17 May 07 (04:29pm)
i have received full info on the condition of both bodys from a coroner friend… any info/detailed articles on any unsolved killings including the deb anderson and recent one in the hills wouldbe appreciated, i would like to see if there arte some possible similarities
Dr.Phibes
Thu 17 May 07 (09:56pm)
John the Middle Swan shops on Dance Drive is a stones throw from my place. As i met Deb Andersons youngish Aunt, I have tried to get her case re-opened but no luck. They recon in the papers the Kalamunda lady,though not from that area,(mabee Dianella or Duncraig) may have tried to commit suicide. I haven`t heard anything more on the case.They questioned her hubby as routine i guess. Here`s a little more on the Sarah Mc Mahon Case, if I may post the link. Kalamunda in the hills is prob 10 ks from Middle Swan,& about 20 ks from the cbd.
http://www.ellisctaylor.com/smwaa.html
riddell
Thu 17 May 07 (11:30pm)
Can someone please tell me who Deb Anderson is i live in Perth i must have missed something Riddell
Dr.Phibes
Thu 24 May 07 (11:21pm)
Hi ya Riddel, Deborah Michelle Anderson visited an atm machine in Woodvale & travelled to Geraldton in her friend`s Ford Laser. She was found about midnight in the burnt out car at the side of the Middle Swan Shops (east side) on Dance drive on JAN 24TH 2000.There used to be a large carpark on that side. On the other side of the bollards there is now a house, that used to be part of the extended carpark.The east wall of the shops was burnt, but relatively undamaged as its brick.Its been repainted. Andy.
Riddell
Tue 29 May 07 (10:16pm)
Thanks for the update Andy i will keep logging on to keep familiar with what you are all working on. thanks Riddell
Seeress
Wed 30 May 07 (08:28pm)
As a psychic I’ve had quite a few feelings of my own about various murders both locally, nationally and internationally as I’m sure most people create and foster their own opinions.
I believe that there is more than one person involved in the CSK’s, two male persons to be specific. I believe that one of them is dominant over the other, however I don’t get the feeling that they are in any kind of homosexual relationship. It’s ‘business as usual’ for the leader, and the other one is in too deep and too stubborn to back out anyway.
I believe that naturally the dominant killer calls the shots. He is obviously a very highly organised killer who plans possibly months ahead of each killing. He did/does not personally know the girls, rather he finds one that fits his ‘fantasy’ and has his partner tail her. I believe they catalogue photographs of each girl for weeks before any move is made. The dominant killer believes he knows each girl imtimately and that they are ‘waiting for a man like him’ in their lives, to the point where leading up to each murder he (or indeed both men) may casually ‘bump’ into the girl in order to facilitate an opportunity for a relationship to commence.
Like most people, I believe that the dominant killer has a military or criminal investigatory background. The submissive killer I believe has a background in photography and investigative journalism. They likely met and have been associates for a long time, and more than likely the dominant killer made several comments to his friend about killing someone before they put the plans into action.
Whilst most of this will be considered pure speculation (and it largely is, granted - I do not profess to blow my own ‘psychic’ horn) I will specify on impressions I get of the murders.
I believe that the killers strangle and rape all girls they kill. The remove the ears, all finger and toenails and also sometimes hair. I believe the submissive killer has a fetish for eating human flesh, and in a frenzy he will bite the bodies before he realises what he is doing. The known victims are not the only victims to fall to this pair. The dominant killer often takes business trips and commits these atrocities intersate and overseas. I believe that the reason there has not been a (recognised) murder committed by the pair in WA for so long is because the scene was too ‘hot’ for them and they have been amusing themselves elsewhere. Every time a new snippet pops up in the news or another suspect is questioned, they laugh, sit back and wait another few months. It’s only a matter of time before another girl is taken.
I do not believe that these men will return to their old haunt in the area of Claremont. I believe that they will change to somewhere more rural in that a smaller town will provide more of a challenge. They’ve been at this for a long time now and they’re getting too complacent.
Again, just my thoughts. Pure speculation combined with an active imagination. I hope whoever is committing these crimes is stopped before they kill again.
author
Thu 31 May 07 (09:28am)
Hi Gary
Thank you for your help through this website. You may have noticed that my book on the Claremnt Serial Killings, called The Devil’s Garden has now been released in West Australia. Response from WA police was to call a press conference to attack my credibility as an author and journalist. I was accused of “cashing in” on one of West Austalia’s greatest tragedies. My response? That the tragedy is that this book needed to be written in the first place.
It is my fifth book with an international publishing comany, my third true-crime title. I stand by the book as the truth and would suggest that instead of using police resources to attack me, they could be putting them where they need to go - into finding who this serial killer is.
Someone knows something. Perhaps a wife protecting a husband, a mother a son, a neighbour too scared to speak out. Police have had carriage of this investigation for 11 years. I was researching and writing the book for one year. Let’s hope that the end result is that someone comes forward. I don’t hold my breath for this outcome, of course, but hope for it - for the sake of the dead girls, and for their grief-stricken families.
Peter Kurtin
Thu 31 May 07 (06:40pm)
There is a strong link between the serial homicide film “copycat” (1995) and the way that the Claremont Serial Killer has imitated previous Perth Serial Killers.
john
Sat 02 Jun 07 (02:43am)
hi sam if you have info about condition of both bodies then did deb anderson sustain abdominal stab wounds? scs seem to think this crime case is linked to a family feud which i utterly reject remembering she met her fate on the anniversary 25 jan of sarah spiers coincidence or fact? also due to there expressions without actually saying it seem to link the popidinka/ mcmahon /ugle crime cases with the latest cime scene at kalamunda stanhope road runs via king road to mundering weir road to farrell grove where the body of prostitute ugle was found in a tree trunk near the toilets also lets not forget 27 jan 2003 the woman found drowned in the mandurah estaury accidental or otherwise did police ever confirm? i believe not remember all 3 woman were victims of the oz day holiday long weekend [approx\
Dallas
Mon 04 Jun 07 (04:21pm)
I have just read through all of this. I haven’t been following the murders closely, but reading through this gives me the creeps, as I was a regular at Club Bay View before and around the time the Claremont killings started.
There used to be a bouncer at Club Bay View. I can’t remember his name. He claimed to be ex SAS, and his day job was working as a Private Investigator. I can’t remember a lot - but he had, I think a black 4wd type of vehicle, and he had camera equipment and all that sort of stuff. In my opinion he was quite creepy - however, I just assumed the police would have investigated him given that he was a bouncer at Club Bay View, and all the girls went there.
Just my thoughts. Have wondered about this before...but then forgotton about it - but reading this again - makes me wonder again.
Phoenix
Mon 04 Jun 07 (08:19pm)
I feel there is a chance that ‘Dr.Phibes’ and ‘John’ are the same person...and that that person is playing very nasty games.
Perthite
Mon 04 Jun 07 (10:36pm)
Dallas of Australia -
John Sainken the psychiatrist would know who the bouncer is after all he
owned Club Bay View didn’t he.
I remember at the time Sainken threatening legal action over defamation.
I believe he no longer owns the club.
Peter Kurtin
Tue 05 Jun 07 (12:27am)
John from England. Australia day long weekend killing spree by a serial killer: Ring any bells? RE my previous comment.
kalz
Tue 05 Jun 07 (04:58pm)
I am leaning towards agreeing with Phoenix…
Hudson
Tue 05 Jun 07 (08:44pm)
On another news site it has been mention that the someone frequenting this site could be involved the fingers have been pointing to Dr Phibes...i can also say too i was a suspect as well and interviewed at home 3 years ago. And was told that a private detective had tried to locate myself when i was in another state to interview myself as well, but have an alibi for 2 out of the 3 murders.
Kakka
Tue 05 Jun 07 (10:30pm)
I think john of uk and Dr Phibes are one and the same. The writing style is incredibly similar and both have an inordinate knowledge of Perth and its surrounding suburbs.
my 2 pence
Wed 06 Jun 07 (12:23am)
Dr phibes is from a early 70’s movie..
There are also a lot of comments on movies with relation to this sort of genre posted by “infofreak” on IMDB.com, listed as being situated in Perth, Western Australia.
Just a thought.
tracy claremont
Wed 06 Jun 07 (01:56am)
i heard from a good source that 2 policeman were involved in the claremont murders that is y it has not been solved it has been covered up with scape goats like lance williams to lure the killer out what a sad story this is i feel sorry for the tax payers of claremont as the cameres wernt working when the so called used a female decoy that was not enough maybe the wa police force should watch a little more svu criminal intent and look within the circle
Jordan
Wed 06 Jun 07 (07:31am)
Peter Kurtin
The only spree killing mentioned, in more then passing, in copycat was the Chi Omega killings done by Bundy.
Nice choice of screen name on your part
Curious reader
Wed 06 Jun 07 (02:44pm)
Dr Phibes of Middle Swan,it seems as though he has/had some dealings with one of the victims of the claremont serial killer.It also seems,if he is to be believed,that the police looked at & dismissed him as a suspect?I too am at a loss.in regard to the way the police have handled the situation, in particular the assertion that the killer has stopped or moved on.There must over ten girls,at least that have disappeared since that time,with several vanishing in not unsimilar circumstances,eg, victims are seen on a street around midnight & then several minutes later they are gone never to be seen again.Its not much but its something.Perhaps the good Dr can be of help?
Curious
Hendo30
Wed 06 Jun 07 (09:30pm)
I beleive I have a fair idea who it may be. I used to work with a guy and when they found Ciara, the guy turned round and said to start with I know that area and know it quite well. Now we started joking around with him and said oh man you could be the killer, he denied it of course but here is the wierd thing. I heard that they were looking for a 4wd White sort of vehicle. Now he had one it was always prestine inside and out and after we had a bit of a joke about with him, he then after about a week or 2 got rid of the 4WD Ute and got himself a new blue coloured car. He also about a week after getting the new car just left work and never returned, he never came back nothing at all, totally off the radar. Now I’m probably jumping at theories and stuff but this guy was a volunteer for the SES he was a trained nurse and an extremely weird guy. Police beleived it was 2 of them and possibly a woman, now he was married as well and again she was a trained nurse, so they could have easily been able to maybe drug them. I have other info but that at the moment I will keep quiet about. Well hope that gets out somewhere, I have tried to contact crime stopppers in regards to this info but to no avail.
john
Fri 08 Jun 07 (02:35am)
With State Crime Squad OIC A Lee saying in debie marshalls interview in police car on the way to Rimmer and Glennon grave sites “how do you know its not on track already?” in reply to her statement “people want investigation back on track” and then to reiterate “how do you know its not on track already ?” suggests SCS have a potential suspect killer in their sights as I previously mentioned period.
JOHN
Sat 09 Jun 07 (03:06am)
With State Crime Squad OIC A Lee saying in Debie Marshall’s interview in police car on the way to Rimmer and Glennon grave sites “how do you know its not on track already?” in reply to her statement “people want investigation back on track” and then to reiterate “how do you know its not on track already?” suggests that SCS have a potential suspect killer in their sights as I have previously mentioned period.
Ww777
Sat 09 Jun 07 (10:34pm)
hmmm.... “Curious” above seems to have a writing and punctuation style identicle to “Dr Phibes”.... ho hum.
Back on subject though, has it every been publicly announced whether the victims enjoyed recreational drug use, as was (and still is) common in the Perth night-life scene? Working on my own theory, which could also tie in with phantom62’s theories…
lmcd
Mon 11 Jun 07 (12:03am)
Missclaudia,
You obviously have lived, or do live in a city where young women can walk around without fear of violence. Let us not make the mistake of transferring our anger from those responsible for committing such anti-social acts to those that are run off their feet trying to pick up the pieces. Yes solving a case is a very important part of closure for victims’ families but a failure to do so is not neccessarily a refelection of ineptitude. Even a ‘Police State’ can not impact on the MIND of a serial killer.
JOHN
Mon 11 Jun 07 (02:17am)
Debi Marshall ask state crime squad A Lee why in Feb 2006 he tried to deter a meet with me and his high ranked ex assist officer in charge vince kinsella who 1 week after i unexpectedly met with him as he previously asked at scs adelaide terrace perth suddenly resigned theory has it that he was at odds with A Lee over info passed that links csk prime suspect with other cold case crimes and why was Lee apprehensive and lie when asked if he knew me saying no when his ex oic kinsella ex macro martin crane and zuidriyin [the southman!] demobbed by macro and reinstated after independent review by state crime squad who i dealt with did march 2006 and i still await confirmation in regards to this matter from police commissioner karl ocallahan to no avail
thelma
Tue 12 Jun 07 (07:05pm)
Gary
Is this blog moderated?
Dr.Phibes
Tue 12 Jun 07 (11:05pm)
Well i`m back for a look. Well some say John & i are one & the same. All i can do i laff about that 1.John`s comments you have to deciper as he doesn`t know how to use full stops. C`mon John.
Perthite
Thu 14 Jun 07 (07:58pm)
Hendo30
Well it is funny you should say that !!!!!!!!!
perthmel
Sun 17 Jun 07 (01:46am)
Does anyone know if Ciara Glennon had a BF/fiancee when she was murdered? I have someone saying that he was her fiancee when she died and has produced a supposed photo of her and himself together also giving great detail of how Ciara was found. I have trouble believing his story as Ciara was overseas for a year before she disappeared and there is no mention of any fiance in any story covering her death.
I want to know if this guy is just a twisted sicko!
pye
Wed 20 Jun 07 (12:24am)
The Old Bailey murder trial of Mark Dixie who was known sometimes to use the name Shane Turner has been delayed for a second time. The original trial was set for march 07 it was then put back to july 07, apparently UK Police wanted more time to gather evidence from abroad ?. It has now been put back again to January 08 . Dixie will have spent a year and a half in custody on remand by this time. It does seem to me that there must be something else still being investigated about his time spent in Australia or elswhrre abroad as this does seem to be taking a very long time bringing him to trial due to the fact that there is a DNA match linking Dixie to crime scene any thoughts?
random
Fri 22 Jun 07 (03:55am)
Id tell the police...perthmel if my boyfriend was dribbling such stuff.Doubt there is a link, lots of info is in the public domain and people can talk shizz too.
My uncle works, or did work for a time with Sarahs dad
if the killer who killed these girls reads this, then I hope they realise at SOME point you will be held accountable for your actions. In the greater scheme of things there has to be balancing...aside from that you can eat shit and die screaming.
nina007, Perth, 1 year ago
The Police are bungling idiots. No wonder the culprit has never been caught. Caper Cops, I'd call it.
Alyx 6, Helsinki , Finland, 1 year ago
I lived in that area during that time and the cops really did stuff this whole thing up BIG TIME.
Asha, Sydney, 1 year ago
Typical police